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Old 05-12-2010, 06:04 PM
 
Location: The beautiful Rogue Valley, Oregon
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Windfall Tax on Retirement Accounts

Maybe it's not false.

Federal Mutual Fund - IBD - Investors.com
An unsigned editorial with the closest thing to "proof" an opinion column from Human Events? Yeah, um, no....
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Old 05-12-2010, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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An unsigned editorial with the closest thing to "proof" an opinion column from Human Events? Yeah, um, no....

IBD is a reputable business publication.

Based on these past articles:

Retiree Annuities May Be Promoted by Obama Aides - BusinessWeek

Teresa Ghilarducci: The 401(k) Retirement System Has Failed - Planning to Retire (usnews.com)
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Old 05-12-2010, 06:34 PM
 
Location: The beautiful Rogue Valley, Oregon
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This is the lede from the unsigned IBD editorial:

Government Retirement: Democrats have obliquely admitted they covet Americans' pensions. Last week, congressional Republicans told them to stay away. The shame is that they had to do anything at all.

The two links you post discuss the potential for converting some retirement accounts to annuities. Not even close to what IBD claims. This is the reason I dumped IBD as a news source - waaay too much political BS slopping over from editorial into the news pages. Even the WSJ has better balance and their editorial board is nuts.

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Old 05-12-2010, 07:12 PM
 
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This is the lede from the unsigned IBD editorial:

Government Retirement: Democrats have obliquely admitted they covet Americans' pensions. Last week, congressional Republicans told them to stay away. The shame is that they had to do anything at all.

The two links you post discuss the potential for converting some retirement accounts to annuities. Not even close to what IBD claims. This is the reason I dumped IBD as a news source - waaay too much political BS slopping over from editorial into the news pages. Even the WSJ has better balance and their editorial board is nuts.
You got it and where does the Business Week article talk about taxing?
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Old 05-13-2010, 04:46 AM
 
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good to hear its only a hoax ...I'll be sure and tell my friend who needs to tell her accountant because that's where she heard it!
well she isn't living in America today ! shes in San Fransisco!!!!!!
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Old 05-13-2010, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Sacramento
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In reading the Investor Business Daily article, I don't see the tax grab issue. It seems to me the discussion had to do with potentially making a savings vehicle available for all to use.

In the Federal Government today, workers can put money in an IRA type of account, with the employer matching the first 5% of the employee contribution.
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Old 05-13-2010, 07:45 AM
 
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In the Federal Government today, workers can put money in an IRA type of account, with the employer matching the first 5% of the employee contribution.
It's actually a 401(k) type of account, not an IRA.

The employer opens it automatically for the employee and puts in the equivalent of 1% of the employee's salary whether the employee puts in anything or not. If the employee chooses to participate, then the government matches it dollar-for-dollar up to 3% of salary. IOW, if the employee puts in 3%, then the government contribution is 4%, for a total 7% contribution.

If the employee puts in any more, then the government matches 50 cents on the dollar up to 5% of salary. So that if the employee puts in a total of 5%, the government contribution is 5% (4% match & 1% automatic contribution).

The employee can, of course, contribute more (up to the IRS limit), but there is no further government contribution.

One further clarification, the government contributions to an employee's 401(k) account applies to those employees covered by the Federal Employees Retirement System (FERS), but does not apply to employees covered by the old Civil Service Retirement System (CSRS). CSRS however, has a much more generous defined benefit pension plan than FERS does.

On a somewhat related matter, FERS employees are covered by SS, whereas CSRS employees are not. (Although both are covered by Medicare.)
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Old 05-13-2010, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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I was having lunch with a friend who is going to retire soon and she mentioned the windfall tax....since Pelosi is now in power and she was backing this from what I understand, is this now a strong possibility?

Anyone heard anything recent on this?

thanks!
Your friend hasn't a clue
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Old 05-13-2010, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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well she isn't living in America today ! shes in San Fransisco!!!!!!
Where small businesses thrive
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