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As I stated in a previous post, I think the newer Elmwood speed bumps/humps are fine. If you take them at a slow speed in a small car, they don't scrape the car. Also the design has been improved: they have gaps to pass bicycle traffic. It is the original installations that were done poorly. I think whoever the city contracted the work to failed to do form them properly. I have heard several complaints about them.
Interestingly, when first constructed, the original prototype design was scrapped. The residents and the engineer felt the humps were too gentle to even slow, much less deter traffic. Glad your happy with what's there now.
I am very familiar with Portland, OR, one of the most aggressive traffic calming cities around -- even worked with their traffic engineering department a bit in the 1990s. What I've encountered in Elmwood is way out of the norm with what I've seen elsewhere in the US or Europe. As Omari noted, the curb-to-curb nature of them also didn't meet best practices to facilitate bicycle traffic. The lack of striping on the actual humps themselves was (or is, if still the case) especially problematic -- you don't deter people from speeding if they don't even know the humps are there until they smash into them!
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Interestingly, when first constructed, the original prototype design was scrapped. The residents and the engineer felt the humps were too gentle to even slow, much less deter traffic. Glad your happy with what's there now.
I am very familiar with Portland, OR, one of the most aggressive traffic calming cities around -- even worked with their traffic engineering department a bit in the 1990s. What I've encountered in Elmwood is way out of the norm with what I've seen elsewhere in the US or Europe. As Omari noted, the curb-to-curb nature of them also didn't meet best practices to facilitate bicycle traffic. The lack of striping on the actual humps themselves was (or is, if still the case) especially problematic -- you don't deter people from speeding if they don't even know the humps are there until they smash into them!
I can't disagree with anything in this post. At the time this traffic calming plan was planned and implemented there was significant hostility to vehicular traffic thru this residential neighborhood. Best practices at the time were throughly discussed at multiple neighborhood meetings. Slowing traffic took a backseat to reducing it. Eliminating thru traffic to the extent it was possible. With that singular goal in mind, many residents called it a success. Early on there were tons of underbody car parts scattered about the affected streets.
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You guys are right. I wouldn't base this decision off of the weather. I brought it up because it was one thing my friend kept stessing about why he wouldn't move back so I thought I would get some more opinions.
It is a rielly good job offer for me. I would say the most important thing to me is if the area is vibrant with things to do outside of work. From your replies I think RI will be good for that.
I am just really happy that I might be moving somewhere with so much history. Phoenix has a few neat historic areas but not many. But, they are nothing compared to New England.
Maybe we got off track here a little bit.
That's a pretty significant pay bump. Does the job also advance your career aspirations? Will they help with relocation costs?
I don't have any basis to judge whether RI is better or worse than AZ for you. I am pretty certain that I would not want to live in the desert portions of Arizona. For me New England is a fairly attractive place to live.
While it's true that unemployment leads to crime, Rhode Island has a much lower crime rate than Arizona.
Gotta agree with you there! And if you took Providence out of the picture the stats would be even better. Murder and other violent crime is low once you get out away from the big city. If only something constructive could be done about the gang situation.
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