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Old 11-04-2022, 09:18 AM
 
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^ There are also many very good restaurants downtown and on the perimeter of downtown
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Old 11-04-2022, 03:16 PM
 
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That's great news.
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Old 11-04-2022, 05:20 PM
 
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Downtown used to be like our New York city, it was fantastic and I worked at all the best restaurants.
Speaking of NYC and downtown Rochester and restaurants, did you ever work at the Manhattan on East Avenue? It was my grandfather's favorite restaurant and I fondly remember him taking us out to eat there in the early 70s.
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Old 11-05-2022, 09:27 AM
 
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In 1982 Kodak had 60,400 employees now it has 4,500. Rochester will never again be what it was. Instead of picking up and moving, rent a place in Rochester for a month or 2 and see what you think.
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Old 11-05-2022, 09:39 AM
 
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^The thing is that Rochester as a metro area has still grown and many from the big 3 companies just went on to form their own, smaller companies. So, that has helped to to keep the area from losing population.
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Old 11-05-2022, 10:25 AM
 
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In 1982 Kodak had 60,400 employees now it has 4,500. Rochester will never again be what it was. Instead of picking up and moving, rent a place in Rochester for a month or 2 and see what you think.
That is true. Xerox is down about 10,000 also. Same with B&L. But as CHTK said, many of those people started their own companies. There are many more people in Rochester's workforce than there were then, and Rochester continues to grow, although slowly.

You don't hear much about Rochester. They have been saying upstate NY is dying, but not Rochester
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Old 11-05-2022, 07:03 PM
 
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^The thing is that Rochester as a metro area has still grown and many from the big 3 companies just went on to form their own, smaller companies. So, that has helped to to keep the area from losing population.
^I think saying the city has transformed is better phrase. The area did not lose population due the massive influx of immigrants.

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"Although losing population since 1950, over the course of the past 50 years Rochester has become a major center for immigration, particularly for arrivals from Eastern and Southeastern Europe, sub-Saharan Africa, and the Caribbean. Rochester had the highest percentage of Puerto Ricans of any major city in the United States in 2013, one of the four largest Turkish American communities, one of the largest Jamaican American communities in any major U.S. city and a large concentration of Polish Americans along with nearby Buffalo, New York. Rochester's Bhutanese and Nepalese communities are among the largest (top 3) in the United States, concentrated primarily in Jones Square and Edgerton with growth fueled by recently arrived migrants and refugees. In addition, Rochester was ranked number 9 in the nation for the largest Italian population in the United States in 2018."
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Old 11-05-2022, 07:11 PM
 
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That is true. Xerox is down about 10,000 also. Same with B&L. But as CHTK said, many of those people started their own companies. There are many more people in Rochester's workforce than there were then, and Rochester continues to grow, although slowly.

You don't hear much about Rochester. They have been saying upstate NY is dying, but not Rochester
This is very true and the area has done a fantastic job pivoting from the big 3 to a more diversified economy and is a major high tech center.
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Old 11-05-2022, 07:17 PM
 
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^I think saying the city has transformed is better phrase. The area did not lose population due the massive influx of immigrants.

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"Although losing population since 1950, over the course of the past 50 years Rochester has become a major center for immigration, particularly for arrivals from Eastern and Southeastern Europe, sub-Saharan Africa, and the Caribbean. Rochester had the highest percentage of Puerto Ricans of any major city in the United States in 2013, one of the four largest Turkish American communities, one of the largest Jamaican American communities in any major U.S. city and a large concentration of Polish Americans along with nearby Buffalo, New York. Rochester's Bhutanese and Nepalese communities are among the largest (top 3) in the United States, concentrated primarily in Jones Square and Edgerton with growth fueled by recently arrived migrants and refugees. In addition, Rochester was ranked number 9 in the nation for the largest Italian population in the United States in 2018."
I was referring to the metro area, which has never had a population loss in an official census in general: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...?metroid=40380

It is likely from a mix of immigrants, natural increase and some inward migration.
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Old 11-06-2022, 08:25 AM
 
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This is very true and the area has done a fantastic job pivoting from the big 3 to a more diversified economy and is a major high tech center.
That is true, but with respect to the "downtown area", and the retail businesses that once populated it, the area is "dead". When my family moved here, in December of 1957, "downtown" was indeed, as previously mentioned, a small replica of old time New York City. Today, too much of the area looks really shabby.

The local newspaper, the Gannett owned, Democrat & Chronicle, recently published an article on a couple of investors who are working on refurbishing the storefront(s) that are located on the northwest side of the major street corner, Main Street and Clinton Avenue. The article included a picture of the building. I was shocked at how shabby the area looked!!

Kudos to the men, but I think they're facing a steep, uphill battle.
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