My vision for Sacramento (houses, university, living in)

[Majin]

[wburg]

[kim racer]

This is what a transit station should look like.


YouTube - Cycle parking at the railway station. Assen, Netherlands

YouTube - Groningen Railway Station Cycle Parking

YouTube - Bicycles in Utrecht - the Netherlands

[Majin]

kim why are you so into bikes? Never appealed to me...

[wiltondeportes]

Originally Posted by Majin

kim why are you so into bikes? Never appealed to me...

im not bike crazy, but think about the economics. what if everyone that went to work, biked to a rail system (or the like) and took it until it dropped them off close by their job? that is damn efficient, healthy, and cheap.

[Curmudgeon]

...because I care about the future of my native state.

[Think About It!]

Majin Sacramento will never look like that. I love city lights and skylines myself and that is why I visit S.F. and mostly Chicago. Sacramento is what it is and that is why most people like it.

Kim Racer biking to work will never work here. It is a great idea because I personally love to ride bikes. It will never work for many reasons. Too many thieves is probably the start. The underlying problem is peoples mind state towards thieves and homeless people hanging around (it's acceptable). If you have only workers riding their bikes and going into their work I doubt your bike would be dismanteled and in pieces upon the end of your work day. I dare you to leave a bike downtown now.

Curmudgeon I know the feeling.

[volleyballer]

No point in having a skyline if it's all hazed by smog. No thanks.

[bluevelo]

I find it amusing that European examples are constantly being pushed as "how the US should be."

Most of the US is not at a density to support bicycling as a primary mode of transportation for all ages. Bikes have their place, and the niche is growing, but... in most of the US, cycling is not a realistic form of transportation outside of university towns and flat places with mild climes (like Sacramento) where cycling is practical year round.

We have trillions - perhaps quadrillions - invested in existing infrastructure - roads and housing, etc. Its highly likely the American of 30-40 years from now will look like - gasp - the America of today, except with more people, with gasp - cars - although more efficient and powered by alternatives to fossil fuels - and - gasp - suburbs.

Will there be more density? Probably. Will all of America be living in highly dense urban villages? Probably not. I would argue that if you really want to reduce the demand on the transportation system, vastly increasing telecommuting is the biggest bang for your buck vs. trying to remake a land use pattern and commuting habits that is approaching 100 years old in some cases.

And all we have to do to increase telecommuting is retrofit existing dwellings with fiber optic and lay the cables from the streets (where it already is) to the houses.

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by Think About It!

Majin Sacramento will never look like that. I love city lights and skylines myself and that is why I visit S.F. and mostly Chicago. Sacramento is what it is and that is why most people like it.

Kim Racer biking to work will never work here. It is a great idea because I personally love to ride bikes. It will never work for many reasons. Too many thieves is probably the start. The underlying problem is peoples mind state towards thieves and homeless people hanging around (it's acceptable). If you have only workers riding their bikes and going into their work I doubt your bike would be dismanteled and in pieces upon the end of your work day. I dare you to leave a bike downtown now.

Curmudgeon I know the feeling.

Even one of Lance Armstrong's racing bikes was stolen in downtown Sacramento during the last Amgen Tour of California. If it can happen to him, what chance does a "normal" person have?