Teen Shot, Dies After Scuffle with NISD Police Officer (San Antonio: felony, house)

[Mom2Feebs]

Originally Posted by Dopo

I thought we were supposed to celebrate when a criminal gets killed

niiiiiice.

[majormadmax]

HadleyZoo

Agreed, even if he was leading a life of crime at such a young age, it's still a shame.

By Texas law, there will be a grand jury investigation into the shooting. It is automatic, even for civilians.

But you never know, this kid could have also been following the path of the twice-convicted murderer who shot four SAPD SWAT officers earlier this week; and his life of crime and run-ins with the police was inevitable...

Still sad though...

Cheers! M2

[ggeorgie]

Bottom line, kid got what he deserved. We can all rationalize why he turned out the way he did, victim of circumstances.... None the less, he was at the age to make CHOICES to better himself, or,,,,,,

[Merovee]

Advances in science have shown kids at that age do not have the same architecture when it comes to the wiring of their mind, specifically the part that deals with risk, thus teens have usually made unwise choices though usually not as tragic.

The Ayn Rand philosophy that everyone is on their own and if they fail or succeed is purely based on their own decisions might be popular among some circles but it does not realistically apply to children. It does take a village to raise a child. To see it otherwise might be taking a philosophical stance but ignoring what science tells us.

What really needs to be eliminated is the overall attitude of disrespect for authority some have and the elements that influenced this kid to believe he could take on a cop. Lacking was his sense of community. When parents stop teaching this for whatever reason, usually because they were not taught it, so how can someone pass down what they have not been taught, then other agencies of the community should find a way to teach these lessons for the sake of community cohesion.

The only problem I can see with law enforcement, and not specifically with the officer, but overall, is that perhaps there needs to be better training for NISD officers and coordination among that department and others.

I read the officer was agitated from the get go (during the chase) according to a witness, that he had circled the block four times, that he was also agitated afterward and did try and perform CPR on the teen.

How severe was the fight to hunt down this kid? Was there a felony involved? Even so that is within the right of the officer but better coordination with other law enforcement outfits, basically SAPD if within SA, so that they could have set up a perimeter around the block and slowly moved in for the capture instead of going at it alone.

Some might think it was just a teen so easy to get but a teen can charge a lone officer as much as an adult and face the same risk which seems to be exactly what happened. His fault overall but how much fault can we assign to someone whose risk center of the mind is not as developed as an adults and how much fault can be assigned to the community are questions that should be asked.

Of course not many will ask these questions, change will occur slowly but it will occur in time when science is more greatly embraced, for now some kids are just set up to fail because of this apathy. So just some things to think about for those who like to think especially those interested in overall social cohesion and who have not given up on other segments of society not their own.

[majormadmax]

It's always easy to second-guess the officer's actions, but the answers to all of those questions will emerge during the grand jury investigation. If he acted inappropriately, he will be held accountable; but don't judge any of this based on what the press is reporting. He could have just as easily been acting accordingly and was defending his life when the teen was shot.

No one will emerge from this unscathed, even if the officer is cleared he will have to live the rest of his life knowing he took the life of a 14-year-old. Even if the teen was a criminal and attacking him, and he feared for his life, that will not be an easy thing to deal with...

[Rapscallion]

This is not a surprise outcome when you place the police directly in schools. The situation demands a quick escalation of events.

How about just returning the power to the teachers and administrators? Corporal punishment worked 30 years ago and no one ended up dead as a result. Kids have no respect for the teachers because, in reality, they have no power over them.

No one can say where the kid was headed, and now no one will ever know. I really doubt the kid ever dreamed he'd end up dead, he was just foolishly playing the role of the rebel.

I'd rather have had a coach walk up and bust him one, it might have woken him up a little. But because we devote an entire division of the police to maintaining order in our schools, this will remain a possible outcome.

[mamatotex97]

It will remain an outcome when a kid runs from the police and when a kid "goes at" a policeman. This is a right from wrong action that should have been taught by the parents a very long time ago.

Obviously there is no respect for the policeman either or this student would not have done either the run or the attack on him.
As long as students bring guns to school, I for one want police officers on campus. A teacher with a paddle can't do a thing in this instance.

All around this is a very sad outcome for all involved. It is an outcome noone is truly happy with.

[L210]

I don't ever remember seeing NEISD police officers patrolling the hallways of my HS. The only times they did was when there was a serious incident. Sad to say it, but some teens are criminals engaging in criminal behavior in and around schools and that is way beyond what a teacher or administrator should be required to handle. In fact, there was a brawl when I was in middle school and there were no cops nearby. One of the assistant principals had his arm in a cast the next day and the female principal was busted in the face.

[scuba steve]

In before someone tells the media about how he was "such a good boy."

[RodLu]

Originally Posted by Mom2Feebs

niiiiiice.

Now, now.....not that I myself have ever been a parent, but that there deceased young'un might have had a Mom of his own, Mom2Feebs.......