Low Income Housing in Stone Oak! (San Antonio, Alamo: salon, apartment complexes, rental homes)

[chud]

Originally Posted by ggeorgie

Hey wait! Did someone just mention it's zoned commercial?? Moderator cut: Off-Topic

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Putting a business there would at least be an honest and appropriate use of the property, since it is zoned commercial (and NOT zoned residential).

[ggeorgie]

Originally Posted by chud

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Putting a business there would at least be an honest and appropriate use of the property, since it is zoned commercial (and NOT zoned residential).

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[mamatotex97]

yep, cause 68 senior citizens are going to bring down the neighborhood....there ya go.

[amexicano]

Originally Posted by chud

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Putting a business there would at least be an honest and appropriate use of the property, since it is zoned commercial (and NOT zoned residential).

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You are using the downhill street as an argument against the apartments, however, you seem to support a commercial development. My guess is that some businesses would have even more traffic in and out that senior-living apartments, so not sure your argument holds water.

Besides, it's not like Stone Oak is very upscale and exclusive either. Some houses and apartments are pretty average to be generous. Some businesses are mediocre at best. It's not like it's Bel-Air or Beacon Hill.

[wehotex]

Originally Posted by flourpower

Low-income apartments proposed for Stone Oak | StoneOakInfo.com

Ridiculous. Low income properties should not be located in a high income area. Nor should those monster churches that deprive the county/city of a solid tax base to support services.

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Originally Posted by amexicano

You are using the downhill street as an argument against the apartments, however, you seem to support a commercial development. My guess is that some businesses would have even more traffic in and out that senior-living apartments, so not sure your argument holds water.

The property is zoned commercial. It is in between two commercial businesses. Building another business there would meet the zoning requirements, and make sense.
Changing the zoning to residential, and building an apartment in between two commercial businesses would not make sense. I think it's a stretch to try to zone that lot residential, given what is around it.

Originally Posted by amexicano

Besides, it's not like Stone Oak is very upscale and exclusive either. Some houses and apartments are pretty average to be generous. Some businesses are mediocre at best. It's not like it's Bel-Air or Beacon Hill.

I did not make any kind of argument about that, but whatever.

[amexicano]

Originally Posted by chud

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The property is zoned commercial. It is in between two commercial businesses. Building another business there would meet the zoning requirements, and make sense.
Changing the zoning to residential, and building an apartment in between two commercial businesses would not make sense. I think it's a stretch to try to zone that lot residential, given what is around it.



I did not make any kind of argument about that, but whatever.

Hey, it's not all about you...first two arguments were directed at you, the other one was directed to other posters.

But you didn't address my second point, just repeated your comment about being zoned commercial. You argued that slope would make entering and exiting from the place dangerous, which is the same whether it's commercial or residential. By the way, rezoning is very normal in any city, if the new use makes sense.

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[Merovee]

I don't live there so I don't have a say but the "it's dangerous to go downhill soooooooo fast while seniors are exiting their residence" sounds extremely disingenuous to me for the simple fact that cars have brakes.

[stoneoak]

I do live here and I hate that hill. It's a steep decline, which immediately stops at an intersection and drivers fly down that thing at ridiculous speeds. Plus it really needs to be paved so now you have people swerving around potholes too. The complaint is justified.

And 67 cars pulling in and out of an apartment complex at all different times would be a little different than, say, a single car pulling into a jewelry store once an hour or so, so I also understand the argument of keeping it commercial zoning.

Also question the age of the tenants. Most states, "senior" is classified as 55 and older. And if only ONE person in the household has to be 55 or older to rent one of these apartments -- as some of the guidelines indicate -- well than you can have a 55 year old guy living there with kids or grandkids. That's a completely different atmosphere than an "old folks home" and even MORE cars and traffic. And it looks like they would allow Section 8 families as well. I've had some pretty horrific experiences with Section 8 tenants, so the thought of that concerns me too.

The neighbors have questions about this project, justifiably so. No need to start the attack, they are being concerned citizens who want to keep the integrity of their neighborhood.

[Azure110]

Originally Posted by Merovee

I don't live there so I don't have a say but the "it's dangerous to go downhill soooooooo fast while seniors are exiting their residence" sounds extremely disingenuous to me for the simple fact that cars have brakes.

I don't even live there but I have been there enough to know that it is NOT disingenuous to be concerned about seniors exiting near that hill. Most seniors tend to drive UNDER the speed limit due to impaired senses.

Cars have brakes? Useless arguement, the car doesn't stop until the driver applies the brakes so proper and safe driving in that area depends on the driver, not the brakes.