Joaquin Castro and Fatherhood (Early: renting, school, to live)

[geargrinder70]

Originally Posted by JuneOf48

Because it's the title of the thread???!!!

If that's what you took away from what they posted then I'm sorry you missed the point.

[geargrinder70]

Originally Posted by EntropyGuardian

Was the air of superiority and moral righteousness natural in this time period or was it taught in schools?

It was some of both. People took pride in themselves and their country. Were they always right in doing so of course not, but it would never be fair for the modern generation to curse them for their faults no more that it is for us to curse all of the modern generation for theirs.

[ggeorgie]

Originally Posted by geargrinder70

I'm 62 and I'm glad you can see what the OP was talking about. Most young people would not have any concept of it, but hopefully in time they will understand.

I do agree but it's not going to stop the changes in time. More people are choosing not to get married! Simple fact! Why get married? Statistically, will end up in a divorce. These people don't want to go through the turmoil that their parents went through in divorce. I have two children and I would say that at least half of their friends are from a divorced family.
My brother, who is a physician, is a few years older than Joaquin and he and his girlfriend have a child together. It is not uncommon anymore. There are a ton of younger, middle aged professionals who are single, not by divorce but by choice who simply do not want to get married.

[geargrinder70]

Originally Posted by ggeorgie

I do agree but it's not going to stop the changes in time. More people are choosing not to get married! Simple fact! Why get married? Statistically, will end up in a divorce. These people don't want to go through the turmoil that their parents went through in divorce. I have two children and I would say that at least half of their friends are from a divorced family.
My brother, who is a physician, is a few years older than Joaquin and he and his girlfriend have a child together. It is not uncommon anymore. There are a ton of younger, middle aged professionals who are single, not by divorce but by choice who simply do not want to get married.

Every generation usually has different views on social issues that's not new. When your children are grown they will most likely have views you will not understand or like. The problem is are the differences always for the better? That's the hard question every generation has to answer for themselves because they are the ones who have to live with them.

[TrapperL]

Children outside of marriage reflects a persons ethics and responsibility. Today, it seems, anything goes. Considering though, I don't find this surprising at all. This is just a measure of how low our society has come in the last 50 years. Next will be drugs in City Hall acceptable, diverting taxpayer monies to personal friends........oh wait, we've already been there.

[bspray]

Originally Posted by TrapperL

Children outside of marriage reflects a persons ethics and responsibility. Today, it seems, anything goes. Considering though, I don't find this surprising at all. This is just a measure of how low our society has come in the last 50 years. Next will be drugs in City Hall acceptable, diverting taxpayer monies to personal friends........oh wait, we've already been there.

Oh, it's just a matter of time before the Religious Right quotes some verse in a book written a couple thousand years ago that says marriage is supposed to be between a Christian man and woman so no one other than Christians can get married. Then how will the rest of the country procreate if they can't do it under the guise of the indestructible union that is marriage?

[Azure110]

Originally Posted by WilGar

Baby for unwed U.S. Rep Joaquin Castro is a blip, not a bombshell - San Antonio Express-News

When I was their age, an unmarried pregnant girl friend would not be paraded around as a prize.

School shootings did not happen; however, pocket knives were carried and guns were in locked cars parked in the school lot to be used for hunting after classes.

There was discipline in the class rooms.

There were winners and losers in events and not just "participants".

District attorneys and police did not go after body counts but were fair in the metering of justice especially to first time offenders.

People stood, took off their head gear and sang the National Anthem, rather than screaming for their team half-way through the song.

The first thing taught and said in school each morning was the Pledge of Allegiance. Everyone stood, placed their hands over their hearts and said it in unison, with reverence. There were no objectors. Of course, a World War had recently been concluded and people realized how tenuous and precious our freedom was.

People worked in what we would now describe as menial jobs, happy to be home from a war and a part of the American Dream. Hand outs were short termed and with a price attached to them. Welfare was not known about, certainly not a way of life and most certainly, multi generational.

My remembrances are out dated, conventional and not progressive.

I don't know much about Mayor Castro's brother but at least they are doing the responsible thing to what seems like an unplanned situation. No abortion or adoption which is admirable in my opinion.

This is coming from someone who strongly dislikes Mayor Castro but I was not always like that. That is a topic for another thread anyways.

I agree with the rest of your thread although it seems like I am much younger than you.

[geargrinder70]

Originally Posted by bspray

Oh, it's just a matter of time before the Religious Right quotes some verse in a book written a couple thousand years ago that says marriage is supposed to be between a Christian man and woman so no one other than Christians can get married. Then how will the rest of the country procreate if they can't do it under the guise of the indestructible union that is marriage?

Would that be any different than a rant from the liberal progressive left? Seems like the same thing to me. No room for discussion on either side.

[TrapperL]

Oh, it's just a matter of time before the Religious Right quotes some verse in a book written a couple thousand years ago that says marriage is supposed to be between a Christian man and woman so no one other than Christians can get married. Then how will the rest of the country procreate if they can't do it under the guise of the indestructible union that is marriage?

The first recorded marriage was in Mesopotamia about 2350 BC or about 4350 years ago. It was not a religious act. The purpose was to bind a woman to a man and guarantee that a man's children were truly his biological heirs. Remember, this was still an era of a hunter/gathering society and the start of the patriarchal civilization. Today it's warped into a religious act, a Government act, a political act, and is nothing like it was intended.

[L210]

If this thread is not about Castro, then what does it specifically have to do with San Antonio?