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Old 09-22-2022, 09:21 AM
 
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Old 09-22-2022, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX via San Antonio, TX
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San Antonio’s lax acceptance of “migrants” which has been going on for years now certainly could have played a part.
Even if those who were the cause of crimes in stone oak in 2020 were migrants, we cannot imply that they were connected to this resource center that is “problematic,” in 2022.
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Old 09-22-2022, 10:41 AM
 
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I don’t think anybody said otherwise. The point he was likely making is that San Antonio has grown much more tolerant of “migrants” than they used to be, and this has resulted in higher crime and things like this migrant center popping up.
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Old 09-22-2022, 11:05 AM
 
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Not sure what an experience in stone oak has to do with a migrant resource center? Is this an insinuation that migrant community using the center today are the cause of the crime you experienced years ago?



It's the bigger picture. San Antonio is a sanctuary city. Early on... it didn't bother me. I remember being super happy when I saw a bunch of people coming out of the immigration office that shares the space with the Home Depot (off 281 by Evans).



Many people were walking out waving the little American flags that they had gotten after being granted citizenship and pledging their oath. There was only one family (middle-eastern), who walked out and the kids were happy, but the dad could have cared less, and the mom grabbed the flags from her kids and the husband, and threw the American flags into the trash can right there at the front. I didn't let it bother me, and I honked and waved to all the other people who'd just become Americans (some of whom were crying they were so happy). It was an emotional moment.


The difference is... those people did it the right way.


Call me a bigot... I'm Hispanic as well. But what I'm seeing is a disaster. Crime has skyrocketed, and yes... I attribute it directly to the mass illegal immigration policies of San Antonio, and Federally. I wasn't going to be part of it. Sorry if this doesn't fit the nuance of how this particular post is supposed to be.
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Old 09-22-2022, 11:24 AM
 
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If there are more break ins and crimes, perhaps it would be a good idea to get these migrants coming in a temporary work permit so that they can acclimate to a new life until they are ready to move on to their final destination in the United States. Usually, people start getting into trouble and being malicious when they don't have enough positive things to preoccupy them. There are so many employee shortages at fast food places, it seems to me that they could temporarily work in those kind of places.
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Old 09-22-2022, 04:19 PM
 
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Even if those who were the cause of crimes in stone oak in 2020 were migrants, we cannot imply that they were connected to this resource center that is “problematic,” in 2022.
It really is not hard to understand. The problem was bad in 2020 and now it is a disaster.

We had migrants dying in trucks in 2020 and now in 2022.

This city cannot even keep the locals from stealing and petty crime so why add to it by being a bus stop for 100,000s of people because the federal government is competent?

The whole thing is mess and I'm glad these political stunts are getting people a thousand miles away to pull their heads out.
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Old 09-22-2022, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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It's the bigger picture. San Antonio is a sanctuary city.

Since when??

In Texas, no city has formally declared itself a sanctuary city. San Antonio is not on any sanctuary city list, although there are a lot of cities in Texas that do not completely cooperate with Federal authorities looking to enforce immigration law.
Texas is actually in the process of passing a bill to ban sanctuary cities.
https://cis.org/Map-Sanctuary-Cities...ies-and-States
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Old 09-22-2022, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX via San Antonio, TX
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It's the bigger picture. San Antonio is a sanctuary city. Early on... it didn't bother me. I remember being super happy when I saw a bunch of people coming out of the immigration office that shares the space with the Home Depot (off 281 by Evans).



Many people were walking out waving the little American flags that they had gotten after being granted citizenship and pledging their oath. There was only one family (middle-eastern), who walked out and the kids were happy, but the dad could have cared less, and the mom grabbed the flags from her kids and the husband, and threw the American flags into the trash can right there at the front. I didn't let it bother me, and I honked and waved to all the other people who'd just become Americans (some of whom were crying they were so happy). It was an emotional moment.


The difference is... those people did it the right way.


Call me a bigot... I'm Hispanic as well. But what I'm seeing is a disaster. Crime has skyrocketed, and yes... I attribute it directly to the mass illegal immigration policies of San Antonio, and Federally. I wasn't going to be part of it. Sorry if this doesn't fit the nuance of how this particular post is supposed to be.
I think (no data to back it up except my experience with this community in social services) that “they” would do it “the right way” if it was a feasible option. It’s not.

https://www.universal-translation-se...s-citizen/amp/

But when we start talking about federal citizenship we stray from the topic at hand: the San Antonio Migrant Resource Center.
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Old 09-22-2022, 05:28 PM
 
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San Antonio must pay $300,000 to settle a pair of lawsuits brought by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton alleging the city violated the state’s controversial ban on so-called sanctuary cities in 2017 and prevented federal authorities from enforcing immigration law.

Paxton had sued the city over a December 2017 incident in which San Antonio police found a dozen undocumented immigrants in a tractor-trailer and released them without turning them over to federal immigration authorities — in apparent violation of Senate Bill 4, a 2017 law that outlawed “sanctuary cities” by requiring local police to cooperate with those authorities.

In one of the lawsuits, Paxton sought to oust San Antonio Police Chief William McManus over the incident.

Under a settlement agreement approved by the San Antonio City Council on Thursday, McManus will keep his job while the city pays $300,000 to end the two lawsuits without admitting fault.

“It is time for cities like San Antonio to wake up and realize their misguided approach to immigration is not only reckless, but it has also made the influx of dangerous narcotics and human trafficking much worse,” Paxton said in a statement. “I have fought relentlessly to secure our border and I will continue to take essential steps to protecting every city in our great state.”

San Antonio officials said Thursday that they believe they would have won at trial, but they risked a $150 million penalty if the state won. San Antonio already had racked up a $6.3 million tab defending itself in the two suits.

The settlement “ends an unnecessary and political lawsuit … one that the city believes and still believes that we would have won but at continued expense to the city and the taxpayers,” City Manager Erik Walsh told reporters Thursday.

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Police arrested the driver of the tractor-trailer on a state smuggling charge but released the people they found in the trailer. City Attorney Andy Segovia said Thursday that the police department didn’t have the authority to detain them. A city memo says police contacted the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, but the agency “did not respond in a timely manner or with sufficient resources to transport or process” the immigrants.

If the feds had a problem with how the department handled the situation, they didn’t tell city officials, Segovia said.

“At no time did anybody with any authority at the federal government level come knocking on our door saying, ‘San Antonio, you are not cooperating with federal authorities,’” Segovia said.

Meanwhile, San Antonio is challenging Senate Bill 4’s constitutionality in federal court.
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Old 09-22-2022, 05:28 PM
 
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Since when??

In Texas, no city has formally declared itself a sanctuary city. San Antonio is not on any sanctuary city list, although there are a lot of cities in Texas that do not completely cooperate with Federal authorities looking to enforce immigration law.
Texas is actually in the process of passing a bill to ban sanctuary cities.
https://cis.org/Map-Sanctuary-Cities...ies-and-States


San Antonio declared itself a Sanctuary City years ago. Greg Abbott passed that law you're mentioning almost three years ago. Since then, San Antonio was already sued by the AG, and subsequently settled with the AG, for violating the Anti-Sanctuary City law:

https://sanantonioreport.org/san-ant...ities-lawsuit/

They no longer claim they are a sanctuary city, but with the current administration in the White House, they no longer have to fight against Federal law enforcement because they're supportive of illegal immigration.
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