Yucaipa...Ghetto! (Stockton, San Bernardino, Moreno Valley: 2014, crime, Home Depot)

[Gabriel A. Pettinicchio]

I agree with mbell75. It's still one of the nicer places in the IE. However, with any growth, there will always be changes. It's California!

[dirtrider9805]

Yucaipa is a great place do not let the OP fool you. Yucaipa is definitely one the nicer cities in the San Bernardino area. I have lived here almost my entire life and I can tell you it is still a beautiful place.

[Tool Shed]

Sadly I feel this is more of a California problem rather than just Yucaipa as other have mentioned as well. Jobs are fleeing the state, taxes and cost of living are high, welfare is climbing fast, and wide open borders aren't helping either. Look at the threads in the California forums, Victorville, San Bernadino, Barstow, Perris, Mo Valley, Fontana, Rancho Cucomunga. You will see a common theme and it includes rising crime, gangs, horrible job markets, etc. the crazy thing is that Californians just said yes to for more years of the same only 3 months ago in November. I hate to leave but I see the writing on the wall. Even my wife is onboard now. The research begins.

[Gabriel A. Pettinicchio]

Sad, but very true Tool Shed. Simply put ... this state is getting what it continues to vote for. In other words, it get's what it deserves.

[MarciaMarshaMarcia]

Originally Posted by Tool Shed

Sadly I feel this is more of a California problem rather than just Yucaipa as other have mentioned as well. Jobs are fleeing the state, taxes and cost of living are high, welfare is climbing fast, and wide open borders aren't helping either. Look at the threads in the California forums, Victorville, San Bernadino, Barstow, Perris, Mo Valley, Fontana, Rancho Cucomunga. You will see a common theme and it includes rising crime, gangs, horrible job markets, etc. the crazy thing is that Californians just said yes to for more years of the same only 3 months ago in November. I hate to leave but I see the writing on the wall. Even my wife is onboard now. The research begins.

Wow, and you are in a nice area...we considered going there when we made "the big move" 4 years ago. Still have friends there. Well, good luck to you. I miss SoCal like crazy, but had to go...

[longslim]

I wonder if the OP calling Yucaipa ghetto just implied there are more black/brown faces, than back in the good old days? Yucaipa is still very nice as are large section of Mo' Valley, Fontana, and Rancho Cucamunga. These cities have some low income areas that translate into "dangerous" for those not from that ethnic background. While within those communities their are good hard working law abiding citizen. It's just one person make a generalization of whole communities and people who never have sat foot in those communities, parrot the same untruth's. North Fontana is a wonderful place to live, most of the housing in Rancho is $300k and above and Victoria Garden is the leading open air shopping place in the IE.

[MarciaMarshaMarcia]

Originally Posted by longslim

I wonder if the OP calling Yucaipa ghetto just implied there are more black/brown faces, than back in the good old days? Yucaipa is still very nice as are large section of Mo' Valley, Fontana, and Rancho Cucamunga. These cities have some low income areas that translate into "dangerous" for those not from that ethnic background. While within those communities their are good hard working law abiding citizen. It's just one person make a generalization of whole communities and people who never have sat foot in those communities, parrot the same untruth's. North Fontana is a wonderful place to live, most of the housing in Rancho is $300k and above and Victoria Garden is the leading open air shopping place in the IE.

But what about...San Bernardino, Hesperia, Colton, Rialto, Adelanto, Victorville, Apple Valley, Barstow? They are IE, how are they doing??

[kttam186290]

Originally Posted by longslim

I wonder if the OP calling Yucaipa ghetto just implied there are more black/brown faces, than back in the good old days? Yucaipa is still very nice as are large section of Mo' Valley, Fontana, and Rancho Cucamunga. These cities have some low income areas that translate into "dangerous" for those not from that ethnic background. While within those communities their are good hard working law abiding citizen. It's just one person make a generalization of whole communities and people who never have sat foot in those communities, parrot the same untruth's. North Fontana is a wonderful place to live, most of the housing in Rancho is $300k and above and Victoria Garden is the leading open air shopping place in the IE.

NO! They're probably calling it "ghetto" because they see more shifty people and loiterers, people walking in herds at intersections and glaring at motorists as they cross the intersection, people begging at the gas stations, more people driving SUVs with spinning rims and bling-bling nails at 1:00 p.m. in the afternoon while the normal population is at work! That IS ghetto! No denying it. FYI: none of the people I'm referring to were "brown". We're a "brown" family ourselves (Latino / Filipino mix).

You know when an area is "turning". It's in your gut instinct. You just have to be in tune to the signs, like I was/am. My brother lives in Palmdale and I saw the signs when his old neighborhood was starting to "turn" and I warned him. His wife hated me for awhile and he had to drag her -- kicking and screaming -- to a better neighborhood with a higher mortgage in a better part of town, but they are soooo glad they did! Their old neighborhood has completely gone to crap. It's now common to see houses in disrepair, cars parked in patches of dirt where there was once a lawn, groups of able-bodied grown men standing out in the streets during the day, blocking traffic, broken glass in the gutters and roadways. Just nasty!

[MarciaMarshaMarcia]

Originally Posted by kttam186290

NO! They're probably calling it "ghetto" because they see more shifty people and loiterers, people walking in herds at intersections and glaring at motorists as they cross the intersection, people begging at the gas stations, more people driving SUVs with spinning rims and bling-bling nails at 1:00 p.m. in the afternoon while the normal population is at work! That IS ghetto! No denying it. FYI: none of the people I'm referring to were "brown". We're a "brown" family ourselves (Latino / Filipino mix).

You know when an area is "turning". It's in your gut instinct. You just have to be in tune to the signs, like I was/am. My brother lives in Palmdale and I saw the signs when his old neighborhood was starting to "turn" and I warned him. His wife hated me for awhile and he had to drag her -- kicking and screaming -- to a better neighborhood with a higher mortgage in a better part of town, but they are soooo glad they did! Their old neighborhood has completely gone to crap. It's now common to see houses in disrepair, cars parked in patches of dirt where there was once a lawn, groups of able-bodied grown men standing out in the streets during the day, blocking traffic, broken glass in the gutters and roadways. Just nasty!

EXACTLY! That was what happened to my neighborhood in just 3 short years, during the real estate "bubble" & subsequent crash. And I lived there for 21 years & raised my family there.

[dexter14]

Originally Posted by kttam186290

NO! They're probably calling it "ghetto" because they see more shifty people and loiterers, people walking in herds at intersections and glaring at motorists as they cross the intersection, people begging at the gas stations, more people driving SUVs with spinning rims and bling-bling nails at 1:00 p.m. in the afternoon while the normal population is at work! That IS ghetto! No denying it. FYI: none of the people I'm referring to were "brown". We're a "brown" family ourselves (Latino / Filipino mix).

You know when an area is "turning". It's in your gut instinct. You just have to be in tune to the signs, like I was/am. My brother lives in Palmdale and I saw the signs when his old neighborhood was starting to "turn" and I warned him. His wife hated me for awhile and he had to drag her -- kicking and screaming -- to a better neighborhood with a higher mortgage in a better part of town, but they are soooo glad they did! Their old neighborhood has completely gone to crap. It's now common to see houses in disrepair, cars parked in patches of dirt where there was once a lawn, groups of able-bodied grown men standing out in the streets during the day, blocking traffic, broken glass in the gutters and roadways. Just nasty!

OMG! Shifty people, loiterers and people walking at intersections?! RUN!! LOL, you've clearly never been to a REAL ghetto. I suggest a visit to Watts, Compton and Stockton. You'll want to come running back to "ghetto" Yucaipa in a day.