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[that1guy]

Originally Posted by Gandalara

Oh yes.
<sarcasm on>
This was a very unbiased piece with quotes like

"The cost of undocumented aliens is an issue that immigrant bashers have created to whip up indignation against people they don't want here in the first place."

<sarcasm off>

Check out Pew, MSNBC, Chicago Tribune, etc...Do a little research, again it's easier to be sarcastic and oblivious, but I prefer reality than ignorant bliss.

[Count David]

Originally Posted by LRobbins

I don't have a promblem with mexicans, I'm actually half asian and my father is american. I just don't want my kids to be the only white kids in school. Being mixed, I can tell you I''ve been on both sides and most mexicans hate white people because they feel we stole there land. Being mixed I get alot of mexicans thinking I am mexican, I get tired of the dirty looks because my husband is white. I've been called a sell out and wanna be white girl. Why is it if white people make a race comment it becomes a issue, but if non whites make comments it somehow ok? My job is to protect my kids and if that means living in a bubble so be it!

Oh please, what a load of generalizations.

Most Mexicans hate white people? Well then, I better thank my parents for "crossing the line" and making me.

I think you're picking the wrong battles to fight in your prospective move. Why not simply look for a good place to live, as opposed to picking apart race? If it's a good place to live, chances are your kids "won't be the only white kids in school", because the area will attract good people of all backgrounds.

[Gandalara]

Originally Posted by that1guy

Check out Pew, MSNBC, Chicago Tribune, etc...Do a little research, again it's easier to be sarcastic and oblivious, but I prefer reality than ignorant bliss.

Just because I don't agree with you and have my own opinions does not mean I am oblivious.

The key word through all of this is illegal. Someone doesn't go through proper channels is illegal. Undocumented is illegal. I don't care what their genetics are.

[that1guy]

Just because I don't agree with you and have my own opinions does not mean I am oblivious.

When a person a fact, it's called lunancy to not agree. If I told you the sky was blue and you still proclaimed yellow, that's lunacy. If I had evidence to disprove your claim and you back simply stating you still don't agree...it's the same situation. Both times, there is evidence and in both the above situations you refuted...without previous knowledge or any data to support your claim.

The key word through all of this is illegal. Someone doesn't go through proper channels is illegal. Undocumented is illegal. I don't care what their genetics are.

Another one of these...so inherently they are bad? So while the majority pay into a system that you'll likely see and/or partake (SS), while I and they most likely wont (me being younger, the illegal immigrants not eligible) you go on to bash them?

Illegal is illegal. So we should return the United States to the various Native nations as per modern rules of engagement?

So are illegal immigrants the same as you speeding down the highway? That's illegal as well...Are the same as my friend who jaywalked in Newport? That's illegal.

The focus shouldn't be on the us v. them, but how to solve the problem. There are all sorts of issues when you go down the route you choose.

[Gandalara]

Ah. One of those posters.
Never mind.

[that1guy]

Originally Posted by Gandalara

Ah. One of those posters.
Never mind.

The type that like facts and proves a point with them? Instead of saying "Oh I don't like the fact and will give an opinion based only on what I think and pass it off as fact".

Umm...if you have proof to contradict what I posted, do so. Otherwise, it's a little hard to pass off your opinion as fact.

[LRobbins]

Originally Posted by that1guy

Umm...I'm half white. It's not an issue of you being White, Asian, or hell Hispanic...but when you make stereotypes and continue them that's the issue. It's not a good thing to pass on to your children. Telling them to understand the world around them and not rely on solely stereotypes is one of the better things you can do as a parent.

Everyone has different opinions and experiences.

[that1guy]

Originally Posted by LRobbins

Everyone has different opinions and experiences.

So that justifies stereotypes?

[Bluesmama]

Originally Posted by Buburuza13

now let face facts!!what would be california withouht mexicans???...they take the hardest and dirtiest jobs,this is the truth people,like it or not...why do i not have an american landscaper???or an american cleaning lady???are americans too fine for this jobs???an additional room near the pool gets renovated..i do not see a hard working american doing the dirty jobs..i see a mexican working for an american boss..he is not the fastest,but a hardworking one...

now with the kids..i am european and lived both in north california and since thanksgiving in temecula...if you have a smart child,he will achieve everywhere,equal north or south...you only have to take care,that the child is put in the right clasroom,with the right teachers..i think,everywhere,are better involved teacher or less involved teacher...my child was put in teh clasroom,that i considere not good enough for him..i went to the principale and told her my opinion..she is an absolute great pribcipale,teh pricipale of teh year hier intemecula and she solved my problem...his math teacher is teh best in the county and he is in best hands now...also in science and teh other teachers....


english to be the second language,you say...first of all this is an arrogante,second not a smart sentence...i do not know,how high your education is,but for sure ,you heart about "mother tongue" ...with other words,the language you spoke at home first with your parents...and i suposse ,you did not speack spanish,so english can not become a second language...
the mother tongue can not be chnaged from the language spoken in school later,do you get it???
the mother tongue is the first language you spoke with the child..since he was a baby..
you write big SECOND language..so even if you want,it can not become any more second language,it was the first one and will always remain the first...

i do not consider school a problem..but i have to tell you there are more mexicans hier then in north..you will hear much more other languages outside then in north and less english..i do not mind that,because i am an IMMIGRANT...but for you as american can be frustrating...my american husband complains sometimes (at shopping,too many other origins surround him and the cashier does not speak good english):does anybody speak english in temecula any more? i answer him in other language...smile...

everything i noticed is in 2 languages..english and spanish..informations from school,from insurrance and so on...it is like living in a country,where spanish is also offcial language..i like spanish and i understand it,but i can not talk so much...so it does not bother me...

traffic..i do not commute,i do not mind..but highway is bad..do not tell me north california is better...it is america and you relate usa to cars,too many cars...that is life..no public transport,pollution...usa...

Holy Mother Mary of God, I don't know what's with that worm inside that Tequila you've been chugging, but I'd hate to be in your shoes in the morning. Whew!!!

[Count David]

Originally Posted by Bluesbabe

Holy Mother Mary of God, I don't know what's with that worm inside that Tequila you've been chugging, but I'd hate to be in your shoes in the morning. Whew!!!

Give her a break, English is not her native language.