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[10,000Lakes]

^^ There is an area in Carlsbad where several people who lived within the same area have or have gotten cancer. You can google it, there are a ton articles that will come up.

[djxpress]

Originally Posted by bigcaat

Look into La Costa. There are a lot of nice condos, and twin homes without an HOA, depending on your price point. It's close enough to Carlsbad, (technically it's south Carlsbad) but outside of where they surmise a cancer cluster to be. Don't buy in Carlsbad proper.

Furthermore, it's not like living in Oceanside, where it's a long, long haul to San Diego. It's just far enough away to be quiet, close enough to drive it comfortably.

Encinitas is much more expensive. You will get a lot more for your money in La Costa, it's more quiet, and only 10 minutes further from San Diego, 10 minutes closer to Carlsbad than Encinitas. We love it here. Look at the condos off of Alga. There are more condos near Alga and Altisma, more twin homes near Alga and Corinita, right up the hill.

Good luck.
Caat

La Costa is just as pricey if not more than most of Encinitas.

and the whole "cancer cluster" thing is just a bunch of upper middle class parents with nothing better to do than to try to blame the soil underneath a school for a statistically insignificant increase in cancer in that area.

They've already done tests, and the tests reflect that those people are crying wolf.

[10,000Lakes]

Originally Posted by djxpress

La Costa is just as pricey if not more than most of Encinitas.

and the whole "cancer cluster" thing is just a bunch of upper middle class parents with nothing better to do than to try to blame the soil underneath a school for a statistically insignificant increase in cancer in that area.

They've already done tests, and the tests reflect that those people are crying wolf.

Not just the soil under a school but where neighborhoods were built.

[runik]

It does seem like Condos are a bit lower priced in La Costa that Encinitas from what we have seen so far. Is La Costa far enough inland to avoid most of the foggy days?

[bigcaat]

Originally Posted by runik

Cancer cluster? Can you be specific please? Thats the area we are looking at.

Carlsbad Cancer Study

Cancer cluster carlsbad ca - Google Search

I think I remember hearing it's 3 miles in diameter from the distance of the power plant, but I can't remember. I'm sure it's somewhere in the links I just provided.

Caat

[bigcaat]

Originally Posted by runik

It does seem like Condos are a bit lower priced in La Costa that Encinitas from what we have seen so far. Is La Costa far enough inland to avoid most of the foggy days?

Yes. Far enough to avoid most of the May Grey and June Gloom, but not so far that it's that severe summer heat/winter cold like in Escondido.

Caat

[bigcaat]

Originally Posted by djxpress

La Costa is just as pricey if not more than most of Encinitas.

That is simply not true. We spent the past two years looking extensively in Encinitas and La Costa and without question you get more for your money in La Costa.

and the whole "cancer cluster" thing is just a bunch of upper middle class parents with nothing better to do than to try to blame the soil underneath a school for a statistically insignificant increase in cancer in that area.

They've already done tests, and the tests reflect that those people are crying wolf.

Yeah, because there would be no incentive for anybody to fudge tests or to lie.

Not just the soil under a school but where neighborhoods were built.

Exactly.

[djxpress]

Originally Posted by bigcaat

That is simply not true. We spent the past two years looking extensively in Encinitas and La Costa and without question you get more for your money in La Costa.

Yeah, because there would be no incentive for anybody to fudge tests or to lie.
Exactly.

Maybe some areas, but La Costa has always been held in a higher esteem than Encinitas (though Encinitan may say otherwise).

And there would be no incentive for people to cry wolf, either? Hardly. These people are hopping on a bandwagon...just like people did in the Prius recall. All those Prius owners claimed that their brakes failed. Guess what the test results showed? Operator error...on EVERY single claim.

Do you know how many thousands of variables can be attributed to cancer? Trying to associate residents' cancer to a "bad" area of Carlsbad
after the test results have PROVEN otherwise is just ambulance chasing, plain and simple. As humans, we have been highly evolved to seek and recognize patterns in things, even if they are a coincidence and don't exist. Science is science, the test have proven that these people are mistaken. Now that they have proven that, these people are trying to come back and say "no, you tested the wrong area" or "you didn't test the soil deep enough" or whatever. Guess what? If the test results came back positive, these people would be praising the same exact agencies that they're poo-pooing now that the tests don't support their hyped up claims.

The fact is, the rate of cancer is increasing every year (WHO | Are the number of cancer cases increasing or decreasing in the world?) and I think the likely hood of a cluster of people who are genetically predisposed to get cancer is a lot more likely to occur than a cluster of people getting cancer from the soil in a specified area.

Here is a blurb from an NC Times article(http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/carlsbad/article_e12b046b-0d6a-5d33-b88c-04c9696ea9b6.html): (http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/carlsbad/article_e12b046b-0d6a-5d33-b88c-04c9696ea9b6.html%29: - broken link) "At one recent birthday party her younger daughter attended, three of the nine party attendees had a sibling who had cancer, Devich said, adding that "is just too many" to be normal."

And what is normal? 3 of 9 had a sibling who had cancer? So say hypothetically that each of the 9 children had 2 siblings, then out of 27 people, 3 of them had some form of cancer. Not such a large number now, is it? And the article doesn't mention how old the siblings who had cancer were or what type of cancer they had.

Quartarone said he knows of about 50 children or adults in Carlsbad who have had various kinds of cancer."


Various types of cancer, which could include skin cancer, but the author doesn't elaborate. If some of those people had skin cancer, being in Southern California, that's something that is pretty common. Plus, who here doesn't know people who have cancer? I know a ton of people who had the flu last year, does that mean there is a flu epidemic?


My point is that a lot of these articles are poorly researched, and a lot of the quotes that are included are just ridiculous. These journalists are writing the articles in a way that is intended to scare the reader, and it seems to be working.

[JRE]

Originally Posted by supafly323

Hello, I am hoping you might have some insight for me. My fiancee and I are both late 20s and moving to San Diego from Portland area. We are looking for a condo in North County.

Her parents are looking to buy a condo for us to live in that would double as a vacation home and/or primary residence for them as they get older and we move on to a SFH.

We all would like a community where there are amenities within walking distance or a short drive -- shopping, restaurants/bars. We don't need to be on the beach necessarily, but would like to be in North County as my fiancee and I both will be working in the Carlsbad area.

Do you have any recommendations for where we should focus our condo search? Budget is not a huge issue, but being relatively close to some activities and culture is. We would also like a newer condo and our very limited search to date has shown us that the closer to the beach you go, the older the vintage of the properties.

Thanks!

Our organization is currently investigating the reported cancer clusters in Carlsbad. Many in the community are concerned about the reported cancer cluster at Kelly Elementary School and surrounding neighborhood. Before you move to Carlsbad, post the location here and I'll check to see if we have any dumpsites in our files that are near where you are planning to move. Also, offices are sometimes built on top of old dumpsites. In what location of Carlsbad will you both be working?

[Mugsy]

Here is a local blog I follow; it might be worth reading tons of data:

bubbleinfo.com | An insider's guide to North San Diego County Real Estate | Klinge Realty Blog by Jim Klinge


It is written by a Local Realtor who does not candy coat the data in North County.