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Old 04-25-2011, 08:54 AM
 
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Ever notice how the only people that seem to care what tier SD is in are usually people that rag on SD on this site? It doesn't seem anyone that is content and happy living in SD gives a crap what tier it's in, let alone discusses it. It's just funny how it's mainly people that rag on SD that complain about what tier it's in because they obviously wish it was some first tier city like NYC, LA, etc..then someone comes around and blindly throws out some BS about SD having an inferiority complex. I've asked people on here to explain how SD has an inferiority complex when they've stated that yet none of them ever have, probably because it actually doesn't.
Don't understand why anyone would want SD to be a tier one city, those place have enormous downsides. The description of me as a neo-conservative is classic - guy must be some kind of hippie?
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Old 04-25-2011, 09:13 AM
 
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The description of me as a neo-conservative is classic - guy must be some kind of hippie?
Centrist Democrat (left-leaning on social issues; right-leaning on others).

Meant not neo-conservative in the wacky mold of William Krystal, Wolfowitz et al, but a new conservative/gop in the mold of when I was young without money & kids, I was liberal, and when I was older with money & family, I am more conservative. Either belief evolution or not beholden to core values.

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Old 04-25-2011, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Santaluz - San Diego, CA
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I agree with the majority of the consensus here. A sports team doesn't define a city at all. In fact, the vast majority of people in a given city probably could case less about a sports team.

Having a sports team or not also doesn't define what "tier" a city may be in.
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Old 04-25-2011, 09:44 AM
 
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I agree with the majority of the consensus here. A sports team doesn't define a city at all. In fact, the vast majority of people in a given city probably could case less about a sports team.

Having a sports team or not also doesn't define what "tier" a city may be in.
Right, but a team leaving could theoretically be a good indicator of a drop in tiers, or a move in that direction. It doesn't matter how much the citizens "care" about the team, but the fact that the team may leave means something isn't working correctly. Sports can't exclusively make a city great, but if they Yankees were to suddenly pack up and move from New York, you would have to agree that something is seriously wrong, right?
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Old 04-25-2011, 11:31 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Right, but a team leaving could theoretically be a good indicator of a drop in tiers, or a move in that direction. It doesn't matter how much the citizens "care" about the team, but the fact that the team may leave means something isn't working correctly. Sports can't exclusively make a city great, but if they Yankees were to suddenly pack up and move from New York, you would have to agree that something is seriously wrong, right?
Not that long ago the Chargers demanded an upgrade to their stadium, they got it.

If we weren't in a recession they would probably get a new stadium but we are and they won't. What is "wrong" is called a recession.

The bottom line is football is a niche market and a special interest. Most people that live in the County don't care about them.

San Diego is and always has been about the beach and ocean.
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Old 04-25-2011, 01:25 PM
 
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A football team isn't much of an indicator of what "tier" a city is in, in my opinion. As has been mentioned, LA doesn't have a football team and I don't think it's any question that they're tier one.

I also don't think that SD has an inferiority complex...that would be San Francisco. Really the only people in SD I see that bash it are the new college grads & wannabes that move here because it's "not LA"...and then they start whining that it's "not LA." Meaning they came here expecting the excitement of LA without LA-type problems.
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Old 04-25-2011, 01:42 PM
 
Location: La Jolla
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A football team isn't much of an indicator of what "tier" a city is in, in my opinion. As has been mentioned, LA doesn't have a football team and I don't think it's any question that they're tier one.

I also don't think that SD has an inferiority complex...that would be San Francisco. Really the only people in SD I see that bash it are the new college grads & wannabes that move here because it's "not LA"...and then they start whining that it's "not LA." Meaning they came here expecting the excitement of LA without LA-type problems.

I don't see how San Francisco could have an inferiority complex, about anything(even the weather). SF>>>>>>>LA or SD.
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Old 04-25-2011, 01:44 PM
 
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SF, biggest inferiority complex of all. Not as big or important as LA (or even San Jose), not as cool or interesting as NY.
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Old 04-25-2011, 01:54 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Sanders, civic leaders meet privately on Chargers - SignOnSanDiego.com


This won't get anyone's support (tax payers).
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Old 04-25-2011, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Santaluz - San Diego, CA
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Right, but a team leaving could theoretically be a good indicator of a drop in tiers, or a move in that direction. It doesn't matter how much the citizens "care" about the team, but the fact that the team may leave means something isn't working correctly. Sports can't exclusively make a city great, but if they Yankees were to suddenly pack up and move from New York, you would have to agree that something is seriously wrong, right?

IMHO, a team leaving isn't an indicator of a drop in tiers. Lots of things these days "isn't working correctly". Heck, just look at the state of California. It hasn't been working correctly for many years and is essentially broke.

To me, sports teams and franchises are a business. Yeah, you might have dedicated fans and they have their hearts in it and the matter but honestly, football should be looked at as a "business".

When businesses don't work in any given city, they close shop or move to another area. I don't look at it too much differently. Sports franchises are in the business of successfully making money. Fan or no fan, people shouldn't forget that. When a franchise owner doesn't see a viable chance for the business or they see a more lucrative spot for their business, more and more owners will probably make the decision to make the move.

If the Yankees were to leave, it wouldn't change in the least the tier level of NYC. Having a sports franchise there wouldn't matter in the least IMHO as to the tier level of the city itself.

I know it can be really difficult for true fans or lifelong fans when a franchise moves but like it or not...when it's all said and done.... it's just a business. And if they left and eventually (when it's viable) another team comes in....I believe eventually fans would support that new "business".
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