06-12-2008, 10:40 PM
Location: Pacific Beach/San Diego
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I wanted to post this in the thread where this was stated but it got locked, so I'll start the discussion here. Seems like there are plenty of people who stereotype San Diego as not being intellectual and the populace not having the levels of education that supposedly intelligent cities like Boston and Seattle have - - as seen in this quote:
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There just a "lower mentality" and education level with the general popualtion in SD that the other cities I mentioned. It has a very commercialized feel vs. the character of Boston, New England, Seattle, San Fran.
The fact is San Diego has the 9th highest percentage of its population with college degrees - - 40.4% of the population (a whole .5% of the population lower than Boston). While San Diego is ranked lower than Seattle (1st), San Fran (2nd), and Boston (8th) with college degree percentage, San Diego has the highest percentage of the population with doctorates in the country, is 2nd in the US with the most Nobel Laureates (behind Palo Alto), and leads the nation in NIH grant money received.
People who denigrate San Diego about its populace's "lower mentality" are ignorant and/or jealous.
06-12-2008, 11:48 PM
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Wow, I was just thinking those very same thoughts today. The whining about San Diego's supposed lack of intellectualism is tiring. I totally agree with you.
06-13-2008, 12:13 AM
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I've wanted to comment on those posts as well and I'm glad you did. Because so many people want to live here I find many in San Diego are overeducated and underpaid. When I worked at UCSD for example, many that had their bachelors or masters would take bottom level Administrative Assistant I positions.
06-13-2008, 12:37 AM
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San Diego doesn't have as many career opportunities as the Bay Area for sure. If it did, I wouldn't be moving up there.
06-13-2008, 10:00 AM
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Thanx for that great info, TristramShandy
We who live here know it's an educated city- - because we all like to go out & enjoy the weather, surf, run, hike, bike, kayak, instead of sitting in coffee shops and bookstores all day- - some people don't get it. . .
07-02-2008, 01:12 PM
Location: SF Bay Area
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mewzikguy
Thanx for that great info, TristramShandy
We who live here know it's an educated city- - because we all like to go out & enjoy the weather, surf, run, hike, bike, kayak, instead of sitting in coffee shops and bookstores all day- - some people don't get it. . .
couldn't have said it better myself
. Just b/c people are smart and intelligent doesn't mean you have to try to show it off and act a certain way.
07-02-2008, 04:58 PM
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TristramShandy
I wanted to post this in the thread where this was stated but it got locked, so I'll start the discussion here. Seems like there are plenty of people who stereotype San Diego as not being intellectual and the populace not having the levels of education that supposedly intelligent cities like Boston and Seattle have - - as seen in this quote:
I agree. While it's true that San Diego has a lot of college-degree people, not many of which are just not using it to the fullest. We may have UCSD, USD, SDSU, CSU San Marcos, and lots of Community Colleges, but the job markets here stinks for highly educated folks. Many of the educated folks here all are about getting rich and making money due to the high cost of living. I know so many science/humanities folks switching to a business career because of lucrative opportunity -- it's about the money. Unless you come from a rich family affording to go to grad school (earning your Master or PhD) without debt, many folks who come from poor and middle-income, go to college for the purpose of acquiring skills to get a good-paying job - not necessarily for the pursuit of enlightenment.
Unfortunately, with so much focus on making money that it often promotes the stereotype of us being materialistic -- and those are the ones who stick out. After all, with all the money you're making (from having a good job/education), what could you do with it? Spend it at the mall, buy more beers, party, and showoff to get all the representation of SD, right? The real highly educated and intelligent folks - are the ones who are humid and need not to show off their educational status.
Last edited by homie01; 07-02-2008 at 05:15 PM ..
07-02-2008, 10:53 PM
Location: Oakland, CA
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Wow, I didn't know that. Great info Tristram! I would like to add that biotech industry is the 3rd biggest in the country, behind #1 SF and #2 Boston.
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Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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