10-31-2011, 08:47 AM
Location: South Park, San Diego
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To me San Diego IS just a giant suburb city,, you just don't get that urban feel to it, everything just seems to clean and cookie cutter and like you are living in a "bubble", you wont find the excitment you find in LA area, it's way too quiet, and "laid back" it's not a bad place to raise a family, but I wouldn't wanna live in a place like OC or San Diego although they may be nice and "perfect" they just don't have a real feel to them, everything is just so perfect , houses look the same, the people are the same, everything is the same ! When I am in San diego or OC i feel like I am in suburbia, everything is very white bread, and dull. I'd rather live somewhere near LA such as southbay or close by, that way I dont have to be in the city, but I can drive anywhere and feel like I am in a real place, with real people, not cookie cutter, and in a perfect "bubble" world that was made up to feel like they are in an imaginary place. My opinion of course.
Yep, we are all just livin' in Poltergeist neighborhoods in suburban perfection with no urban (and sometimes gritty) downtown, no streetcar suburbs, no diverse neighborhoods and towns, no rural outposts and certainly no culture and nothing to do- all in white bread dullness. It's amazing that a city and county five times the size of OC has managed to have such perfectly planned, dull and innocuous existence for almost 250 years.
Pulleazzze!
10-31-2011, 01:11 PM
Location: San Diego, CA
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When I am in San diego or OC i feel like I am in suburbia, everything is very white bread, and dull.
You seriously get that feeling walking around downtown? I sure don't. On the block that I live on, there is a nice mix of old historic buildings and new modern ones. The garage has pickups to sports cars to stereotypical sedans.
I just don't see this part of the city as white bread at all.
10-31-2011, 01:47 PM
Location: Mission Hills, San Diego
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^ I would say the same about the neighborhoods around Balboa. Different architecture, wide range of people, lots of non chain restaurants, fairly dense living. Go a bit east a little into City Heights and you will see a variety of people from all over the world-if not for the sunshine and palm trees you could in Queens or other area with many new immigrants. San Diego being white bread is a ridiculous myth. I suppose the suburbs and outer areas of SD are more mainstream (as with EVERY american city I know of), but no one puts a gun to your head to hang out there.
10-31-2011, 02:00 PM
Location: 92037
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10-31-2011, 02:25 PM
Location: East Fallowfield, PA
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^^
Right. Just to cut to the chase, here is the shortlist to "sum up" San Diego:
Its about as obtuse as the following to sum up SD:
- 4S Ranch= SD is full of Asians
- Southeast SD= African American or Hispanic and the quintessential dump of SD
- All of Chula Vista= Hispanic
- Downtown= Yuppie white kids and homeless people
- HOA community in Carlsbad= White overachieving soccer moms hooked on Caramel Frappuccinos, SUVs and Costco runs
- East County= go to rodeos, sit on porches with rifles, its called dip not chewing tobacco
- North County Coastal= the "rich" people and life doesnt exist east of the 5
- Balboa Park area= yuppie families going against the grain by living 'urban' whilst living amongst crime ridden University Ave and El Cajon Bl
Anyone else care to add to our region of dull, white breadedness? This is a rough compilation of sentimental feelings that I have read over the years on this forum as well as comments in new articles.
Oh yeah and then people on this board who dont acknowledge or even understand where 99.9% of this crap comes from actually live their lives and enjoy it her in San Diego
Well you've gone a bridge too far when you include my Caramel Frappuccino in this list - HOW DARE YOU SIR!!
I think I can safely say that driving my Infiniti SUV to COSTCO while juggling my low fat double shot grande caramel frappuccino is the height of sophistication and upper suburbia!
Oh Dear Sir, shame on you! I'm shocked, shocked I tell you to hear and read the mocking disdain!!
10-31-2011, 02:39 PM
Location: 92037
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Well you've gone a bridge too far when you include my Caramel Frappuccino in this list - HOW DARE YOU SIR!!
I think I can safely say that driving my Infiniti SUV to COSTCO while juggling my low fat double shot grande caramel frappuccino is the height of sophistication and upper suburbia!
Oh Dear Sir, shame on you! I'm shocked, shocked I tell you to hear and read the mocking disdain!!
Well apparently, according to my detailed list blanketing all of San Diego, you'll fit right back in when you get here
Because you know....even though other cities have Starbucks, SUVs and Costco's, they are just trying to emulate our SoCal lifestyle
10-31-2011, 02:54 PM
Location: East Fallowfield, PA
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10-31-2011, 03:41 PM
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Carmel Valley housing stock is pretty uniform 1980s suburbia. Folks who live there are ethnically diverse but non-diverse in being of higher education. CV lacks main street feel, more gated communities, more strip malls spanning spectrum of high to low quality with chains and independents.
11-01-2011, 12:56 PM
Location: San Diego, CA
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- Downtown= Yuppie white kids and homeless people
Ruh roh! I better move, because I don't think I'd like living outdoors!
11-02-2011, 03:57 PM
Location: Verona, WI
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Look here!About San Diego - San Diego History, People, Events and News | KNSD San Diego CA - NBC 7/39 (http://www.nbcsandiego.com/aboutsandiego/index.html - broken link)
This link didn't work for me. Can you please doublecheck it and repost? I tried digging around on the NBC San Diego homepage, but couldn't find a link to anything discussing the history of San Diego. Thanks!
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Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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