05-13-2011, 07:29 PM
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
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Setsuko
Whenever I hear people complain about being too "politically correct", I often wonder what they really mean.
It's a silly term that popped up in the '80's when calling everybody amd everything right-wingers didn't care for "communist" went out of vogue.
"PC" seems to be the knee-jerk comeback for those who don't like being told that throwing the N-word and other epithets around is not appreciated.
05-14-2011, 08:59 PM
Location: SW MO
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bigdumbgod
"PC" seems to be the knee-jerk comeback for those who don't like being told that throwing the N-word and other epithets around is not appreciated.
...or being told that "illegal aliens" is pejorative and they shall henceforth be referred to as "undocumented workers," even if they have no jobs, and idiocy of that nature.
A Department of Corrections and
Rehabilitation that rehabilitates no one unless they die in custody and one that has a 70% recidivism rate.
A state and country in which "he/she had a hard childhood" has replaced the Twinkie defense.
Children with issues now have "special needs" and children who flunk classes for whatever reason are passed into the next grade and graduate from high school as functional (barely) illiterates lest they be "tainted and painted" as the no-work dummies they are.
Children in organized sports are given awards and trophys for being losers lest their tender psychies become irreparably harmed.
The state bends over backwards to provide drivers tests, ballot information and services in dozens of languages perpetuating and enabling immigrants lack of assimilation at great cost to the taxpayers
It's "right think" and "right speak" a la Geroge Orwells
1984 and if you haven't read it, you should or, if a recent California high school graduate, find someone literate to read it to you.
05-14-2011, 09:38 PM
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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or being told that "illegal aliens" is pejorative and they shall henceforth be referred to as "undocumented workers," even if they have no jobs, and idiocy of that nature.
ok, in fairness I can agree with this.
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A Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation that rehabilitates no one unless they die in custody and one that has a 70% recidivism rate.
again agreed.
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A state and country in which "he/she had a hard childhood" has replaced the Twinkie defense
Don't know what this means.
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Children with issues now have "special needs" and children who flunk classes for whatever reason are passed into the next grade and graduate from high school as functional (barely) illiterates lest they be "tainted and painted" as the no-work dummies they are.
Completely agree with this one.
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Children in organized sports are given awards and trophys for being losers lest their tender psychies become irreparably harmed.
Totally agree with this one too. It's likely why some shoot up the schools for the same type of "harassment" you and I dealt with. They can't deal with hardship if they've been sheltered from it.
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The state bends over backwards to provide drivers tests, ballot information and services in dozens of languages perpetuating and enabling immigrants lack of assimilation at great cost to the taxpayers
Sad but true.
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It's "right think" and "right speak" a la Geroge Orwells 1984 and if you haven't read it, you should or, if a recent California high school graduate, find someone literate to read it to you.
A lot of what was in 1984 seems to becoming to pass.
I've realized that outside of most political things, you and I agree on a lot.
05-14-2011, 09:59 PM
Location: Oakland
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bigdumbgod
"PC" seems to be the knee-jerk comeback for those who don't like being told that throwing the N-word and other epithets around is not appreciated.
I agree that this is the case with some people, and when it is i think it's pretty easy to pick up on their thinly veiled racism/xenophobia. With people like that, if you call them out on their racism or whatever else it is that's offensive, suddenly you are "too PC", and you get the following comment: "it's not REALLY offensive, you're just a sissy who can't tell it like it is!!!". With some others, it is a legitimate complaint, because some people
are just way too uptight...but i agree that too many people negatively use the term "politically correct" to try and justify their own insulting opinions, whatever they may be.
05-14-2011, 10:09 PM
Location: SW MO
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Don't know what this means.
Dan White was the San Francisco supervisor who assassinated Mayor George Moscone and Supervisor Harvey Milk in 1978, at City Hall. White's defense was that he ate too many Twinkies that day and was on a sugar jag. As a result, he was convicted of manslaughter rather than murder in the deaths of Milk and Moscone. It's been known, rather derisively, as the "Twinkie Defense" ever since; now applied to any outlandish bunch of nonsense introduced by the defense in a trial. But then again, San Francisco jurors bought it. Hmmm!
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Gentoo
I've realized that outside of most political things, you and I agree on a lot.
Scary, isn't it?
05-14-2011, 10:26 PM
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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Dan White was the San Francisco supervisor who assassinated Mayor George Moscone and Supervisor Harvey Milk in 1978, at City Hall. White's defense was that he ate too many Twinkies that day and was on a sugar jag. As a result, he was convicted of manslaughter rather than murder in the deaths of Milk and Moscone. It's been known, rather derisively, as the "Twinkie Defense" ever since; now applied to any outlandish bunch of nonsense introduced by the defense in a trial. But then again, San Francisco jurors bought it. Hmmm!
Scary, isn't it?
Not really that scary. On these types of social things I've always thought that there has been a systematic pussification of our society. OTOH, rah makes a good point as well and until you explained the way you used that term I wondered. Anyway yes, outside of politics we do agree more often
05-15-2011, 08:41 PM
Location: Earth
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Curmudgeon
Dan White was the San Francisco supervisor who assassinated Mayor George Moscone and Supervisor Harvey Milk in 1978, at City Hall. White's defense was that he ate too many Twinkies that day and was on a sugar jag. As a result, he was convicted of manslaughter rather than murder in the deaths of Milk and Moscone. It's been known, rather derisively, as the "Twinkie Defense" ever since; now applied to any outlandish bunch of nonsense introduced by the defense in a trial. But then again, San Francisco jurors bought it. Hmmm!
The "irresistable impulse" defense (which includes the "Twinkie Defense") is no longer recognized in California specifically because of the Dan White case.
Think that White being a politician and an ex-cop might have had something to do with him getting off easy?
BTW I agree with everything else you said.
05-18-2011, 10:04 AM
Location: THE USA
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Curmudgeon
Decidedly not if you're in the military.
Ridiculous statement. We honor our military families all around the bay. The bay was a huge military hub. Alameda naval air station, moffett field, the presidio, mare island, Travis afb, fort ord, camp parks, huge history here. Not our fault the govt closed up most of these places. I have family member and friends who worked at or lived on 6 of these places.
05-18-2011, 10:10 AM
Location: THE USA
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You spend too much time "hating" on the place/people/politics you left behind and not enough time enjoying your life wherever you moved to. Sounds like the Ozarks are quite dull since you're so drawn, like moths to a flame, to the Bay Area day after day.
The Ozarks are a dump which is why my people left there 70 years ago. Those who stayed are bitter. SF Unfriendly? Try KC, OKC, and Little Rock. A bunch of judgmental rude people out there in the bible belt.
All we can do is avoid them.
06-02-2011, 07:00 PM
Location: San Leandro
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The Ozarks are a dump which is why my people left there 70 years ago. Those who stayed are bitter. SF Unfriendly? Try KC, OKC, and Little Rock. A bunch of judgmental rude people out there in the bible belt.
All we can do is avoid them.
Most of your Ozark ancestors joined others in Oakie migration west due to the dust bowl.
Speaking of Dust what happened to Setsuko? Did the mods finally realize he was City-Boy/Uptown Oakland reincarnate???
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People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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