Okay, so where exactly are these so-called "horrible areas" in Oakland? (Santa Cruz: 2013, insurance)

[Scott456]

I suggest that you take a drive along the freeway, explore the area from west oakland, downtown oakland....all through San Leandro. You can see some horrible looking neighborhoods. I would not live there even if someone pays me to do it.

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by jade408

One difference about the "west coast" vs the "east coast" is that the bad neighborhood on the west coast look pretty nice. Nice looking homes, etc. We don't have as much of the urban decay/desolateness you see in other places. But other than having nicer houses......

So true. I was utterly shocked when I visited DC a long time ago. Just a couple of blocks away from the gleaming center of power and the Washington Mall was a commercial district that was all boarded up, with crumbling apartment buildings all around. Horrible! Lawmakers should be required to live within walking distance of where they work some months each year. I bet things would change for the better real fast.

[mayorhaggar]

Originally Posted by jade408

One difference about the "west coast" vs the "east coast" is that the bad neighborhood on the west coast look pretty nice. Nice looking homes, etc. We don't have as much of the urban decay/desolateness you see in other places. But other than having nicer houses......

What was that Dave Chappelle quote about all the thugs in LA mowing the lawn...

[Hemlock140]

I used to work in the field in Oakland into the early 90s, and having gone back several times since, find the same areas to be the worst. Brookfield Village, Sobrante Park, and around 73rd and MacArthur.

BTW, did they change the name of Alvingroom Ct. to EC Reems Ct. or did I forget where it was?

[Nineties Flava]

Originally Posted by Hemlock140

I used to work in the field in Oakland into the early 90s, and having gone back several times since, find the same areas to be the worst. Brookfield Village, Sobrante Park, and around 73rd and MacArthur.

BTW, did they change the name of Alvingroom Ct. to EC Reems Ct. or did I forget where it was?

If you're talking about the big low income complex down the street from Castlemont then yeah it's EC Reems Ct now.

[Hemlock140]

Originally Posted by Nineties Flava

If you're talking about the big low income complex down the street from Castlemont then yeah it's EC Reems Ct now.

Yeh, that's it, thanks.

[Nineties Flava]

Originally Posted by Hemlock140

Yeh, that's it, thanks.

It's a weird complex... Most don't know about it unless they live in the neighborhood. As it is it's somewhat of a throwback to how public housing in East Oakland used to be before the city decided to modernize it.

[Huckleberry3911948]

i would suggest that u take a stroll alone along lake merritt late at night to demonstrate your assertions that oakland has no crime. make sure your insurance is paid up b4 u leave.

[Caltovegas]

So how is it the Poe-lease don't know where the bad areas are and clean them up?

[Nineties Flava]

Originally Posted by Caltovegas

So how is it the Poe-lease don't know where the bad areas are and clean them up?

The OPD only has half of the actual police force they'd need to be able to respond to all of the incidents that do happen, let alone actually stop crime from happening. Oakland has major crime but it doesn't have major resources... State resources are for the most part allocated to building prisons to house current and future criminals.

Also, OPD officers generally do not live in Oakland and have no real vested interest in preventing crime in Oakland. At this point they really are just glorified street cleaners... they'll wipe up the blood and scrape you off the concrete but they won't save you. Sometimes they're the ones that shot you.