Berkeley protest (to live, stats, office)

[DMenscha]

Originally Posted by victimofGM

Saw photos and videos of the protest in Berkeley. I thought they were suppose to be all peace & love in Berkeley. Is this a local protest or is it pretty much all UC Berkeley students? Has some of the more violent protestors been from Oakland or other areas?

There's 30,000 undergraduate students at Cal. I doubt they all jumped in.

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by pch1013

In a fascinating twist, some white thugs attacked a black customer of a hardware store that they were in the process of looting.

That just proves that there were outside elements in the crowd. People who weren't there to protest. It's not a "fascinating twist". This isn't entertainment, like an unexpected plot twist in a film or novel. A peaceful protest got hijacked by criminal elements. That's cause for serious concern and an investigation.

If march organizers had been alert and on the ball, they should have stopped the march and had every one sit down and start chanting "No Violence", or something of that nature. Then the thugs/looters would have been revealed, the legit protesters would have gotten some credit for trying to stop the looting, and things might have turned out a little differently.

[pch1013]

Originally Posted by Ruth4Truth

That's cause for serious concern and an investigation.

By whom? Remember, the police are all evil and racist and can't be trusted.

[jade408]

Originally Posted by pch1013

By whom? Remember, the police are all evil and racist and can't be trusted.

No it is not that "police are racist." The problem is racism is baked into the police system. In their training, their approach and their processes.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/postev...-only-one-fix/

[bay2bay]

Watching these protests all around the Bay I have to say the most creative one, in my opinion, was the one where they held the doors open and chained themselves on the BART trains at West Oakland Station. The other demonstrations have grown passé -- same old same old -- yawn.

[bmw335xi]

This is so true...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR465HoCWFQ

[ohhwanderlust]

Originally Posted by bay2bay

Watching these protests all around the Bay I have to say the most creative one, in my opinion, was the one where they held the doors open and chained themselves on the BART trains at West Oakland Station. The other demonstrations have grown passé -- same old same old -- yawn.

There were 'protesters' who did that on the Amtrak train tracks.

If these morons get turned into roadkill, no sympathy from me. It'll simply be natural selection at work.

[bmw335xi]

Originally Posted by ohhwanderlust

There were 'protesters' who did that on the Amtrak train tracks.

If these morons get turned into roadkill, no sympathy from me. It'll simply be natural selection at work.

[llowllevellowll]

I know someone who was stuck on I-80 last night, along with thousands of others. She missed her flight and had to sleep in her car until 6:00 am. Countless people ran out of gas on the freeway and many were standing outside of their cars.

These are dangerous situations they're putting people in. Imagine medical emergencies, women in labor, people with ailments. Senseless anarchy won't strike social change. If anything, they're turning me centrist people like myself away from being sympathetic. It's an unfortunate state of affairs with 3-4 incidents gaining recognition nationwide. Getting the conversation moving into a more positive direction is one thing; rioting because a lawless youth assaulted an officer and reached for his gun and was not surprisingly killed is another thing - it's senseless and tiresome.

I'm now over it.

[bmw335xi]

Originally Posted by llowllevellowll

I know someone who was stuck on I-80 last night, along with thousands of others. She missed her flight and had to sleep in her car until 6:00 am. Countless people ran out of gas on the freeway and many were standing outside of their cars.

These are dangerous situations they're putting people in. Imagine medical emergencies, women in labor, people with ailments. Senseless anarchy won't strike social change. If anything, they're turning me centrist people like myself away from being sympathetic. It's an unfortunate state of affairs with 3-4 incidents gaining recognition nationwide. Getting the conversation moving into a more positive direction is one thing; rioting because a lawless youth assaulted an officer and reached for his gun and was not surprisingly killed is another thing - it's senseless and tiresome.

I'm now over it.

I completely agree with you! I was debating one of my friends and these were some of the main points I was making too. They have no common sense and are turning moderate people away from them and anything they have to say, myself included. When it came to Brown, I believed the officer's story. However, the Garner case was different. That kind of force was not necessary, but these idiots have turned all my focus on them and I don't want anything to do with them and now I am rooting for the police department because I don't want them to ever think that lawlessness and violence is how you bring change in modern day America.