Good people of the Bay Area, help me dispel or confirm a stereotype? (Los Angeles: rental, high crime)

[DeanoSF]

Originally Posted by CorporateCowboy

It's not that it's 'personal' or not anyone's business; people in the Bay Area are extremely open. Even professionally, people just don't care or discuss (which, I suppose, by 'outsiders' could be interpreted as believing it's 'personal'). To the contrary, however, think how open people are in re: sexual identity, for example.

Not sure why you're (mis)quoting me as saying it's "personal," but I believe we are making similar points that most people simply don't care.

[CorporateCowboy]

Originally Posted by DeanoSF

Not sure why you're (mis)quoting me as saying it's "personal," but I believe we are making similar points that most people simply don't care.

I directly quoted you (#220) in re: 'it's not anyone's business' which certainly translates to 'personal' or something that which someone wishes to keep to themselves, lol. I was simply disagreeing in re: that specific point.

That said, agreed many simply don't care (several obvious examples come to mind as a whole); but that circles back around to the OP's question - because people who 'don't care' are, more often than not, the 'live and let live' type (as opposed to those who get uptight, emotional or angry about others' opinions).

[DeanoSF]

Originally Posted by CorporateCowboy

I directly quoted you (#220) in re: 'it's not anyone's business' which certainly translates to 'personal' or something that which someone wishes to keep to themselves, lol. I was simply disagreeing in re: that specific point.

That said, agreed many simply don't care (several obvious examples come to mind as a whole); but that circles back around to the OP's question - because people who 'don't care' are, more often than not, the 'live and let live' type (as opposed to those who get uptight, emotional or angry about others' opinions).

From the perspective of the one considering making a declaration, you may be right. My perspective was from the one hearing the statement (and was clearly described as such). "It's not anyone's business" in this context was meant to say that I (like everyone I know and associate with in the Bay Area) do not expect someone to announce their religious affiliations or wear them on their sleeves in day-to-day interactions with people.

The above observation was not the case in Texas, where I'm from.

[TashaPosh]

Originally Posted by DeanoSF

The above observation was not the case in Texas, where I'm from.

A world of difference IMO! I've been in the BA for a little over a year & I'm from the LA area...Torrance. AND I lived in Plano, Texas for a couple of yrs. & it's night & day. I love the BA........for so many reasons.....BUT the BA is very friendly & super accepting of most things that people would thumb their nose at anywhere else. Do your own thing. Don't obsess about other people. I never realized how many wannabes there are of people that want to live here tho...... until I moved here!!

[DeanoSF]

Originally Posted by TashaPosh

A world of difference IMO! I've been in the BA for a little over a year & I'm from the LA area...Torrance. AND I lived in Plano, Texas for a couple of yrs. & it's night & day. I love the BA........for so many reasons.....BUT the BA is very friendly & super accepting of most things that people would thumb their nose at anywhere else. Do your own thing. Don't obsess about other people. I never realized how many wannabes there are of people that want to live here tho...... until I moved here!!

True. I would be seriously taken aback if I were to hear some of the things that came up in "polite" conversation back in Texas said here. I lived in Houston and Dallas and the Dallas area is even more outwardly religious (in intrusive and judgmental ways) than Houston (though Houston has plenty of that attitude to go around).

It wasn't necessarily oppressive, but it was nonetheless notable. The Bay Area is much more laid back in this regard and much more comfortable for me, at least. Glad you're enjoying it too.

I think it'll be interesting to see how this COVID-19 lockdown weeds out some of the people who are only here for work or are otherwise not truly connected to this area (physically or mentally). Perhaps the Bay Area and more specifically SF will lose some "wannabe" appeal, as many of the things about the City (other than its surrounding environment) that make it such a draw have been diminished.

We'll see, I suppose. I'm still in it for the long haul though, as I'm guessing you are too.

[TashaPosh]

Originally Posted by DeanoSF

True. I would be seriously taken aback if I were to hear some of the things that came up in "polite" conversation back in Texas said here. I lived in Houston and Dallas and the Dallas area is even more outwardly religious (in intrusive and judgmental ways) than Houston (though Houston has plenty of that attitude to go around).

It wasn't necessarily oppressive, but it was nonetheless notable. The Bay Area is much more laid back in this regard and much more comfortable for me, at least. Glad you're enjoying it too.

I think it'll be interesting to see how this COVID-19 lockdown weeds out some of the people who are only here for work or are otherwise not truly connected to this area (physically or mentally). Perhaps the Bay Area and more specifically SF will lose some "wannabe" appeal, as many of the things about the City (other than its surrounding environment) that make it such a draw have been diminished.

We'll see, I suppose. I'm still in it for the long haul though, as I'm guessing you are too.

Ita about religion in Dallas. When I first moved.....I was working in a hospital in Plano & I would be asked all the time......."have you found a church home yet". People just assumed I was religious....they never even asked me. Until moving to Texas.......I was probably asked about religion several times my whole life in LA & Arizona............AND in Texas, it was almost an every day subject from somebody or the other.

I'm totally in the BA for the long haul tho..........tbh I don't know if my fiance would ever move because of his hobbies & friends & work.........AND I have made a lot of friends too.

[CorporateCowboy]

Originally Posted by DeanoSF

My perspective was from the one hearing the statement (and was clearly described as such). "It's not anyone's business" in this context was meant to say that I (like everyone I know and associate with in the Bay Area) do not expect someone to announce their religious affiliations or wear them on their sleeves in day-to-day interactions with people.

Point being - if they choose to wear their atheism, religious affiliation, gender identity, sexual orientation and/or anything else 'on their sleeve' (or they simply have a sleeve), the Bay Area, as a whole, is more accepting i.e. 'liberal' than most (per the thread) - even among white-collar professionals.

[DeanoSF]

Originally Posted by CorporateCowboy

Point being - if they choose to wear their atheism, religious affiliation, gender identity, sexual orientation and/or anything else 'on their sleeve' (or they simply have a sleeve), the Bay Area, as a whole, is more accepting i.e. 'liberal' than most (per the thread) - even among white-collar professionals.

Yes, I already stated that I agree with you on this point.

[G Grasshopper]

I have never told someone anything about my religious affiliation or beliefs without being asked. In the Bay Area, that almost never happens, but in Texas (where I lived for 5 years) I was asked, though not on a really regular basis. I talk about religious beliefs only with members of my church or someone who is an friend and asks. That is really one of the functions of church; to give a forum of like minded people who face challenges and want to talk them through. The fact that I can have a belief system, but not be compelled to share it, defend it, or be asked about it is a big reason why I love living in California

[CorporateCowboy]

Originally Posted by G Grasshopper

The fact that I can have a belief system, but not be compelled to share it, defend it, or be asked about it is a big reason why I love living in California

Sure, you can have a belief system you don't 'share or defend'; but then, that misses the whole point of the thread. Point being - the Bay Area is liberal in its acceptance of others, as a whole, no matter their beliefs/disbeliefs; it's not likely you'd get much of a second look even if you flaunted your religion, as many on the streets do.

That said, there simply is no need to hide or pretend who you are (or what you believe/don't believe). I find that to be an unhealthy way to live (as is forcing one's opinion on others as well).

(Btw, how is Honey Grasshopper - lol, kidding; your name reminded me of someone. : )