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Old 01-19-2017, 07:28 AM
 
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Nope - animals have souls - just like the human animals - not everyone thinks like you do. I am also a Christian and that is what I believe.

Also - I have spoken to an elderly woman who was in the B and B circus and had first hand knowledge of the elephants and she says there was no abuse - I am not sure that is true - but I would like to think it is.

Also I am an animal rescuer for many years and many of us hate PETA - PETA is full of nuts - most of the rescue community does not support them
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Old 01-19-2017, 08:22 AM
 
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animals have souls? that's rich indeed
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Old 01-19-2017, 08:26 AM
 
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btw Christianity and Judaism doesn't teach that animals have "souls"...okay ? in fact both books of the bible
make a complete distinction between "man", and the "animals"...Man was made in "God's Image"..the bibles don't make any assertion that man is simply "another ANIMAL"......go back and study your own religion...lol
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Old 01-19-2017, 08:32 AM
 
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I live where one of the biggest rodeos in the world takes place. The organizers bend over backward to try and keep these types of people happy but they never are happy.

Life is life......if a peta person accidentally steps on an ant do they get bent out of shape about it ?


That's what's happening to America ! full of leftwing extremists it seems, and alarmists. Some people care more their cats than their next door neighbor
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Old 01-19-2017, 10:28 AM
 
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Sorry Leta - you are dead wrong - the way I read the bible - animals do have souls - you have your beliefs and I have mine -

Why so cold? - not very Christian of you
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Old 01-20-2017, 01:53 PM
 
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For the non belivers go to youtube.type in ringling bros.elephant child abusers,if you can stomach it,

if you would like just put in their name and elephant abuse/cruelty and bingo not just one story but many.

I am sure the other animals suffered the same cruel training,how else would you get a wild animal to act unnatural.
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Old 01-20-2017, 05:49 PM
 
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snapdragon1 - I have seen videos of abuse and I agree it is very bad - not sure why the woman told me they were not abused - she lived it and her husband was an elephant trainer - she said when she got up to feed her babies - he got up and fed the elephant babies - maybe they were not all abused - so hard to know

AND ELEPHANTS HAVE SOULS TOO
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Old 01-23-2017, 07:10 AM
 
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I say good ridance to bad rubblish.
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Old 01-23-2017, 07:36 AM
 
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Unless you were there, you don't know if there was abuse or not. I certainly don't rejoice in people losing jobs, and animals losing homes. I am a huge animal lover, but I have learned not to believe anything and everything I read and hear.
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Old 01-23-2017, 07:40 AM
 
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A lot of people in all areas of life have lost jobs.The circus is not an exception. I think preparation is an important part of life. If they don't have any specific real world non circus skill sets other than juggling or putting on a clown costume, it's on them.
It's the end of an Error.
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