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does the discovery of cheddar man illustrate the absurdity of the term race?
is there really a thing termed a race? the discovery of cheddar man quashed the assumption that the early britons were fair skinned. do you think that the notion of the term race is absurd due to this discovery? one can assume that people migrated from high melanin regions to areas that were less conducive to melanin, which evolved people to be fair skinned over time
it is commonly accepted that all modern humans derived from africa; therefore, is the notion of a race kind of absurd, possibly ignorant?
here is one article that ties one migration to the modern plethora of ethnicities that we know now:
At some point in the future (If we survive that long) everyone will be the same color so "race" will be an necessary term.
Probably nonsense, but never mind that.
For the duration we will have people who look considerably different from other people, so we need to cope with this superficial evidencing of "race" whether it represents squat on a genetic level.
It's perhaps one of the worthiest of goals to get to a point where genetic differences in appearance are merely interesting curiosities and not a factor in how we judge each other, but stomping and screaming that 'there ain't no setch animal' does not move things forward.
What it illustrates; is the absurdity of the phrases: "science-based medicine", "scientific consensus" & "scientific proof", when used to quash a large volume of anecdotal evidence.
does the discovery of cheddar man illustrate the absurdity of the term race?
is there really a thing termed a race? the discovery of cheddar man quashed the assumption that the early britons were fair skinned. do you think that the notion of the term race is absurd due to this discovery? one can assume that people migrated from high melanin regions to areas that were less conducive to melanin, which evolved people to be fair skinned over time
it is commonly accepted that all modern humans derived from africa; therefore, is the notion of a race kind of absurd, possibly ignorant?
In a word, no It pays to understand what you are debating before entering a debate.
Definition of race (Entry 3 of 3)
1 : a breeding stock of animals
2a : a family, tribe, people, or nation belonging to the same stock
b : a class or kind of people unified by shared interests, habits, or characteristics
3a : an actually or potentially interbreeding group within a species also : a taxonomic category (such as a subspecies) representing such a group
b : breed
c : a category of humankind that shares certain distinctive physical traits
As you can see, the word "race" is again another word from the vulgate. It has one definition that relates it to taxonomy, but has many others as well. What people primarily dislike is its use as a pejorative, which is more common in people who have little understanding of the word. What I also find troubling is the inconsistency of use. While Jews are often referred to as a race, he genetic linking to Semitic origin is simply not there in a large portion of that population, yet I have not heard of anyone speak of a race of Catholics or Baptists.
The last definition quoted stands from historical use (again, the vulgate), but is more accurately the phenotype. Phenotypes most certainly do exist, but to propose that porky posting phobic pundits ponder and parse phenotype is pointless. Their vocabulary skills are stretched near the limit at four letter words.
does the discovery of cheddar man illustrate the absurdity of the term race?
is there really a thing termed a race? the discovery of cheddar man quashed the assumption that the early britons were fair skinned. do you think that the notion of the term race is absurd due to this discovery? one can assume that people migrated from high melanin regions to areas that were less conducive to melanin, which evolved people to be fair skinned over time
it is commonly accepted that all modern humans derived from africa; therefore, is the notion of a race kind of absurd, possibly ignorant?
In a word, no It pays to understand what you are debating before entering a debate.
Definition of race (Entry 3 of 3)
1 : a breeding stock of animals
2a : a family, tribe, people, or nation belonging to the same stock
b : a class or kind of people unified by shared interests, habits, or characteristics
3a : an actually or potentially interbreeding group within a species also : a taxonomic category (such as a subspecies) representing such a group
b : breed
c : a category of humankind that shares certain distinctive physical traits
As you can see, the word "race" is again another word from the vulgate. It has one definition that relates it to taxonomy, but has many others as well. What people primarily dislike is its use as a pejorative, which is more common in people who have little understanding of the word. What I also find troubling is the inconsistency of use. While Jews are often referred to as a race, he genetic linking to Semitic origin is simply not there in a large portion of that population, yet I have not heard of anyone speak of a race of Catholics or Baptists.
The last definition quoted stands from historical use (again, the vulgate), but is more accurately the phenotype. Phenotypes most certainly do exist, but to propose that porky posting phobic pundits ponder and parse phenotype is pointless. Their vocabulary skills are stretched near the limit at four letter words.
i know what defines a culture, but i am unsure of what defines a race. unless they have dark hair, they cannot be derivatives of the country's culture? . it seems absurd
i came up with a conclusion: melanin is the derivation of race
if you review history, you will see that there were many empires throughout the globe that reached its own unique levels of sophistication
the mayans were great astronomers; the greeks created western civilization; sumerians created mathematics ; the ancient egyptians etc etc
the sophistication of various past empires prove that the initial concepts of race and eugenics was not only ignorant, but quite fallible in regards to human intelligence
For the duration we will have people who look considerably different from other people, so we need to cope with this superficial evidencing of "race" whether it represents squat on a genetic level.
It's perhaps one of the worthiest of goals to get to a point where genetic differences in appearance are merely interesting curiosities and not a factor in how we judge each other, but stomping and screaming that 'there ain't no setch animal' does not move things forward.
What it illustrates; is the absurdity of the phrases: "science-based medicine", "scientific consensus" & "scientific proof", when used to quash a large volume of anecdotal evidence.
Yes it is. The idea that every differentiated set of physical characteristics is going to cross-breed into identical slush is hilariously nutty and linear-minded. You've been watching too many episodes of Star Trek or other shows full of what TV Tropes calls, I think, "Planet of Hats" - every person on a planet is of identical appearance, dress, culture, religion, language...
Earth is vast and diverse enough that differing superficial characteristics - let's call them "races" for short - will persist as long as there is a planetwide population. We are not all going to look like the browner takes on Jesus (or whatever) in 100, 1,000, or 10,000 years. Only when/if humans are reduced to a small and geographically compact population could a single 'blenderized' morphology result.
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