02-22-2013, 12:14 PM
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I'm new to Seattle and want to go skiing this weekend. I may stay the night not sure. Want to avoid really crowded places and long lift lines if possible. I have skied 7-8 times in my life but haven't skied for about 18 years. So I'm a kind of a beginner, but not a super, super beginner. I have done a lot of cross-country too in my life. Any suggestions? I don't mind a longer drive. Thinking Mnt. Baker, Stevens Pass, Mission Ridge.
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02-22-2013, 01:08 PM
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Well with the big storms this weekend, I imagine EVERYWHERE will be packed. I'm going to Stevens on Monday and I still expect there to be lines. I haven't been to Baker or Mission Ridge, but I've been to Stevens and Crystal. Stevens doesn't have any lodging there if you plan on staying the night.. it's literally a ski area on the side of the road. But they have really good runs, and it's pretty laid back. The lines there can get to be really long when there's enough fresh snow dropping.
We went to Crystal twice this year, and it's an actual resort. There's lodging right there, and well.. they have the gondola to go to the top for awesome views of Rainier on a clear day. I haven't done a lot of their runs, but only because the first two times we were there, it was actually the first two times we've skied.
Either way, you'll definitely have to deal with the crowds this weekend, but, at least for me it would be totally worth it.
02-22-2013, 01:24 PM
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Thanks for the info!
I noticed on the road conditions web site chains are required going up to Mt. Baker for non 4 wheel drives. Do they have a place to pull over where people will help put on chains?
Crystal might be good for me to think about but I'm sure it will be crowded. I have a flexible work schedule, maybe I should plan to go during the week. Do they have WIFI access at Mt. Baker?
02-22-2013, 01:43 PM
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Crystal is probably the easiest to do a weekend trip to, and it's a good mountain for skiing. For boarding it has a few too many flat/uphill areas!
Baker is an amazing mountain unlike any of the others around here. The location and lodging situation is poor however. The closest cabins are around 30 miles from the mountain and they're mostly private rentals. Definitely make it up there at some point.
Mission Ridge is not great as it really is just a ridge. It's inexpensive and that's the best part. If you're in Wenatchee it's fine to play around on but not really worth a trip on it's own. On the plus side, it's visually interesting because of all the volcanic rock outcroppings, some of which are in the middle of runs.
Snoqualmie is a little boring, but has a lot of easy runs and is good for learning or getting back in to the sport. Stevens is more challenging and has better terrain.
Whistler is the only one I make a point of traveling to and getting lodging lately.
02-22-2013, 01:49 PM
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How crowded is Whistler on the weekends? I would imagine lodging is very expensive up there.
02-22-2013, 01:55 PM
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Not sure about wifi. I know at Stevens I have perfect reception and all bars (couldn't get it to connect to wifi though). At Crystal I have no service whatsoever, and no wifi. I'm sure if you were staying overnight in a room they'd have something. As for chains, there should be stop offs to chain up. They have them all along the road going to Stevens as well.
During the week it's really never crowded. We went to Stevens two weeks ago on a Wednesday right after a good dump, and there was hardly anyone there. But we've also been when it hasn't snowed in a week and well.. it sucks. I mean, it still beats a day at work, but it's still not as fun when you're dealing with slush and potential icy spots.
I'd say still go this weekend if that was your original plan. Stevens is expected to get 15-23" today/tonight alone. Baker is expecting 20", and Crystal is expected to get 17-27" today/tonight. At that point, I wouldn't care what the lift lines looked like.
02-22-2013, 01:59 PM
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Lodging is expensive in the winter, and lift tickets are (what I consider to be anyways) ridiculous. We went in August and it was still pretty crowded, but I can only imagine it in the winter.
02-22-2013, 02:21 PM
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noticed on the road conditions web site chains are required going up to Mt. Baker for non 4 wheel drives. Do they have a place to pull over where people will help put on chains?
Crystal might be good for me to think about but I'm sure it will be crowded. I have a flexible work schedule, maybe I should plan to go during the week. Do they have WIFI access at Mt. Baker?
Baker is way out in the middle of the wilderness. There are vacation rentals nearby, but Baker itself is strictly a ski lodge. And it is one of the most bare-bones ski places I've ever been to (we stay around Bellingham, ~1 hr away). However their snow is pretty world-class. There's places up there you can go snow shoeing in July and they hold the record for US snowfall. They don't have cross-country (and you'll see why), but there are groomed sno-park trails on the way up if you have your own skis (or rent before you head up). My hardcore, ski-every-weekend friends head straight there, and Baker is known for not having lines. It's also right in the middle of some impressive backcountry. Be very, very careful about going out-of-bounds if you aren't prepared for backcountry conditions (and have taken an avalanche course).
You can get cell phone reception there, but Baker doesn't have wifi, ATM's or TV - and they wear that like a badge.
I've not gone up there in chain conditions, but I'd be pretty shocked if there were people to help you out. I could be wrong on that though... However the road, as it winds up Baker, is pretty tight, no guardrails and some pretty sheer dropoffs. By this time of year though - there should be large snowbanks on either side. Still - it's a road I would hesitate to drive on in a storm, and that's coming from a person who grew up out in the middle of nowhere with some very harsh winters.
For my money, I like Steven's. It's not too crowded, it's a slightly higher altitude which means better snow (drier, crunchier - not as heavy and wet), and you can head down the road to Leavenworth if you want to make a weekend of it. (however you usually need reservations - Levenworth gets booked pretty fast) IMO, they have the best cross country conditions, and I love that the nordic center is a few miles removed from the regular lifts.
Crystal is definitely the most 'resort-y' of the lot. I tend to avoid these places, but my friends with kids love it. Apparently the lines aren't too bad, and they have the most in the way of amenities. They're about the same distance as Steven's. No cross-country right there, but there are sno-park locations nearby. Snoqualmie and Steven's are the only ones with nordic skiing.
Happy skiing!
02-22-2013, 02:34 PM
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Thanks Kayela for the good advice. This trip I would be doing downhill vs. X country. In the future I will be doing X country and snowshoeing trips.
I'm just a single guy no kids. Sounds like Stevens is worth a look. I just hope the lines are not terribly long this weekend. I will check Leavenworth for a place to stay.
I've also been thinking of heading up to Whistler and just staying up for a whole week.
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Is it worth waiting for a weekday to go to say Stevens? I have a flexible schedule and I could do that.
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People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)