04-29-2013, 05:18 PM
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NBA panel votes to keep Kings in Sacramento | Local News | The Seattle Times
I am somewhat surprised. With Hansen running a very competent campaign and getting Ballmer on board, and the fact that Seattle is a bigger media market, I figured that the other pieces would all fall like dominoes.
I can't say that I am disappointed. I've always been a huge NBA fan but the last few years have gotten turned off. The new stadium would have been effectively taxpayer subsidized. Claims to the contrary are sleight-of-hand.
I'm listening to KJR right now and the ESPN 'legal expert' (funny that such a posts exists) says that that this is virtually a done deal--the Kings will not be coming here. And there is no NBA expansion in the cards. Seattle Sonic boosters are left hoping that they can purloin a team from a Milwaukee or Charlotte, much as OKC and Clay Bennett purloined the Sonics from us.
04-29-2013, 06:19 PM
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Big surprise.
04-29-2013, 06:32 PM
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I would like them to still move forward with the arena and NHL. This has really turned me off of the NBA, not because I really cared to take the Kings, but the position they have taken with expansion. This is so contradictory - how they had no problem moving the Sonics to Oklahoma, David Stern and Clay Bennett knifing Seattle again, it looks deliberately hostile to Seattle. Karma will come for them big time and Seattle will come out ahead. I love this city and don't like to see it lose at anything. NHL would probably be more fun to watch anyway.
04-29-2013, 06:41 PM
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Frankly, I don't care.
04-29-2013, 06:53 PM
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I think people would be more willing to stomach NHL expensive tickets over NBA. I personally don't know too many people who want NBA back (but are more excited about the NHL prospect) and find it strange that the local news talk about the hordes of folks here wanting NBA back.
04-29-2013, 06:56 PM
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I think people would be more willing to stomach NHL expensive tickets over NBA. I personally don't know too many people who want NBA back (but are more excited about the NHL prospect) and find it strange that the local news talk about the hordes of folks here wanting NBA back.
I'm glad you said that, I know I would. I have positive feelings about NHL and think it would be really fun. The NBA seems to want Seattle to dislike them intensely and they're getting their wish.
04-29-2013, 07:03 PM
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I would like them to still move forward with the arena and NHL. This has really turned me off of the NBA, not because I really cared to take the Kings, but the position they have taken with expansion. This is so contradictory - how they had no problem moving the Sonics to Oklahoma, David Stern and Clay Bennett knifing Seattle again, it looks deliberately hostile to Seattle. Karma will come for them big time and Seattle will come out ahead. I love this city and don't like to see it lose at anything. NHL would probably be more fun to watch anyway.
Me too. I hope Chris Hansen goes after the Phoenix Coyotes and builds an arena anyway, and markets the crap out of the team a la the Seahawks and Sounders. Make the NBA regret their decision every day!
I'm only shocked because it's an absolutely horrible business decision. I don't get it. Sacramento is bankrupt and has massive debt. And its major employer - the state - is laying people off and can't afford to pay pensions. I can see the arena plan falling through, or lawsuits filed to stop the arena due to costs. Their plan has a massive public contribution.
04-29-2013, 07:07 PM
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I think people would be more willing to stomach NHL expensive tickets over NBA. I personally don't know too many people who want NBA back (but are more excited about the NHL prospect) and find it strange that the local news talk about the hordes of folks here wanting NBA back.
I don't know, the nosebleed tickets to a Bruins game are about $110.
04-29-2013, 07:09 PM
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Me too. I hope Chris Hansen goes after the Phoenix Coyotes and builds an arena anyway, and markets the crap out of the team a la the Seahawks and Sounders. Make the NBA regret their decision every day!
At some point, there will come a time when Seattle plays OKC. Karma baby.
04-29-2013, 07:39 PM
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I don't know why anyone would be surprised. The NBA wanted Sacramento to build a new arena, and they are getting their wish. Seattle never had a chance despite the hard efforts of Hansen. Always seemed like a brilliant guy so I think he may have known he would be used and likely has something up his sleeve. Perhaps he is willing to go ahead with the project without a team but more likely
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Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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