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Old 01-02-2015, 05:25 PM
 
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OP....

Just move to North Beach part of Seattle...evidently they have no foreclosures and they have the best schools..

Problem Solved!
Cheapest house on the market is a 2 bedroom listed for $540K and it needs foundation work. You'd probably be in for $700K before this place is as nice as one of the new $350K houses out in MV. But the view...

https://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/23...17/home/289741
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Old 01-02-2015, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Independent Republic of Ballard
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Cheapest house on the market is a 2 bedroom listed for $540K and it needs foundation work. You'd probably be in for $700K before this place is as nice as one of the new $350K houses out in MV. But the view...

https://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/23...17/home/289741
Come on, guys - start a separate "Maple Valley (Good and Bad)" (or something similar) thread. The OP of this thread wants somewhere more urban. Maple Valley is suburban to semi-rural. Like a lot of places on the outer commuter edge, it got overbuilt and more than its share of sub-prime mortgages during the housing bubble, but which has very little to do with its desirability.
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Old 01-02-2015, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Spokane Valley, WA
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Come on, guys - start a separate "Maple Valley (Good and Bad)" (or something similar) thread. The OP of this thread wants somewhere more urban. Maple Valley is suburban to semi-rural. Like a lot of places on the outer commuter edge, it got overbuilt and more than its share of sub-prime mortgages during the housing bubble, but which has very little to do with its desirability.
Yea, but this guy has a fetish with Maple Valley and all the BS he spews...foreclosures, bad schools, etc....

Do a search of my suggestions about Maple Valley and it's not the first time "it" has hijacked a thread about Maple Valley with all the false info.

I recommended Maple Valley in more threads, and "it" always has a false negative about it....AND "IT" thinks it knows about this area!
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Old 01-02-2015, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Spokane Valley, WA
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Cheapest house on the market is a 2 bedroom listed for $540K and it needs foundation work. You'd probably be in for $700K before this place is as nice as one of the new $350K houses out in MV. But the view...

https://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/23...17/home/289741
So why do you care so much about Maple Valley then?
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Old 01-02-2015, 06:03 PM
 
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So why do you care so much about Maple Valley then?
Mostly because I see it as an interesting experiment in ex-urban planning. It's definitely a unique community with pluses and minuses. The boosters (and the developers that make the bucks building these places) don't tend to look at the greater impact this type of development has. Over the long run it will be interesting to see whether MV ends up sustaining once it's done growing, or if it ends up another neglected outer ring burb left to decay like some others.
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Old 01-02-2015, 06:39 PM
 
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Mostly because I see it as an interesting experiment in ex-urban planning. It's definitely a unique community with pluses and minuses. The boosters (and the developers that make the bucks building these places) don't tend to look at the greater impact this type of development has. Over the long run it will be interesting to see whether MV ends up sustaining once it's done growing, or if it ends up another neglected outer ring burb left to decay like some others.
Actually this is exactly the reason that i feel very little interest about Maple Valley. I see that type of exurbs eventually withering into far away ghettos. MV is not a good value either short term given that it has absolutely no discernable urban fabric and all real estate there will lose value as soon as something new is built either closer to the urban core of the metro or even further away.
The above suggestions with Puyallup or in a lesser way, Auburn, hold more water. The fact that it is viable to commute to the airport by public transportation is an added bonus for these two. Both may improve over time given the arrival of the millenials on the RE market and their different buying habits.

Can you however elaborate over what you feel MV being unique?
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Old 01-02-2015, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Independent Republic of Ballard
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Can you however elaborate over what you feel MV being unique?
Pretty much its semi-rural character, but still within commuting range of Seattle or Bellevue (albeit on the outer edge - about one hour on the #143 from the Maple Valley P&R), which can't be said of too many areas these days (North Bend and Duvall are the only others I can think of). You need to distinguish between the incorporated town and the valley, which extends further north.

Good schools testify to it attracting middle- to higher-income families (est. median household income is $95,656, compared to $57,573 statewide). It is basically one road in and out (Hwy 169), which likely constrains future development somewhat.

While some of the junk construction from the housing bubble might not hold value, much is older construction on larger lots, which will only gain value.
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Old 01-02-2015, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Spokane Valley, WA
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The fact that it is viable to commute to the airport by public transportation is an added bonus for these two.
And how are those two cities any different that Maple Valley as far as public transportation to the airport?

Please share the route you plan to take!

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Old 01-02-2015, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Independent Republic of Ballard
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And how are those two cities any different that Maple Valley as far as public transportation to the airport?
He's not from here...

He might be thinking that Sounder, which has stations in Puyallup and Auburn, stops at Sea-Tac Airport, which it doesn't. Both the transit and car trip are about the same from Puyallup and Maple Valley - 30 minutes driving and over an hour busing it (with one transfer). Auburn is closer, however.

Puyallup and Auburn do have better connections to Seattle, because of Sounder.
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Old 01-02-2015, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Spokane Valley, WA
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He's not from here...

He might be thinking that Sounder, which has stations in Puyallup and Auburn, stops at Sea-Tac Airport, which it doesn't. Both the transit and car trip are about the same from Puyallup and Maple Valley - 30 minutes driving and over an hour busing it (with one transfer). Auburn is closer, however.

Puyallup and Auburn do have better connections to Seattle, because of Sounder.
Better commute to Seattle when they aren't shutdown for maintenance, train traffic or accidents which seems to happen more and more frequently. Also, depends on where you live in Auburn/Puyallup and where you work in Seattle. If you work in SLU, it can be annoying getting off the train and getting on a bus or the light rail. Also, getting on the train after work can be annoying and you have to time it just right or wait 25-30 min for the next train.

I used to ride the Sounder and the now take the 143 and it is an easy commute via the bus. I just sit in and enjoy the ride.
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