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Old 12-26-2016, 12:37 AM
 
Location: In a rural place where people can't bother me ;)
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By the time this thread catches on, many of you will come back and ask how I knew. Well....heres the deal. It's going to get extremely cold after the first of the year there in western Washington, even more so further east near Spokane. I study the climate in the arctic and am currently trying to make a qualitative connection between low solar activity and how it relates to the feedback loop within earths climate and day to day weather. There is some lag time but I am convinced it is not as long as we currently understand it to be. Being that I grew up in the greater puget sound area, I sort of find it my duty to at least attempt to let people know.

You will not find the National Weather Service or Rich Marriot(spelling) from King5 or any other met in Seattle proper telling you the truth on whats really going to happen until 3 days out. For those of you reading this who can remember....think about Seattle winter climate in the 50's and 60's & 70's..... this next "cold snap" will rival if not beat the coldest cold snaps of those decades.




#grandsolarminimum
#maunderminimum
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Old 12-26-2016, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Portal to the Pacific
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Just checked weather underground. The highs are 10 degrees or so below average, but not particularly remarkable as we've been below average many days this season. 3 days straight of 1-3 inches of snow is definitely eye catching. You might very well be right.. but this has been the season of "little boy crying wolf" in terms of actual impact (Cliff Mass and Co. has made some substantial incorrect predictions) so I'm going to just key an eye on things.

I really wouldn't prepare until at least three days out anyway, but thanks for the head's up!
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Old 12-26-2016, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Spokane Valley, WA
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Isn't legal weed great??????
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Old 12-26-2016, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Eastern Oregon
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Komo is also hinting at a lot of snow starting next Sunday. I agree - it's too far ahead to know exactly, but it sounds like it could be interesting!
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Old 12-26-2016, 09:44 AM
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From the National Weather Service Seattle discussion of weather trends for next weekend.

.LONG TERM...A cold front will move through the area Thursday
night and early Friday morning. Cold air aloft appears that it
will mainly follow the end of the precipitation, so the
precipitation is expected to remain in the form of rain in the
lowlands.

The operational GFS, Canadian GEM, a majority of their ensemble
members -as well as the ensemble average for the ECMWF- show big
changes in the pattern starting this weekend as strong blocking
develops along about 150W longitude. Some models show an arctic
front moving south across the area around New Years Eve that could
produce some snowfall over the area. Then most models show a
period of cold and windy weather with some strong Fraser outflow
at times after that. The details are likely to change and model
solutions may become inconsistent at times. So only minor changes
were made to the going extended forecast tonight. Albrecht
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Old 12-26-2016, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Eastern Oregon
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Originally Posted by 509 View Post
From the National Weather Service Seattle discussion of weather trends for next weekend.

.LONG TERM...A cold front will move through the area Thursday
night and early Friday morning. Cold air aloft appears that it
will mainly follow the end of the precipitation, so the
precipitation is expected to remain in the form of rain in the
lowlands.

The operational GFS, Canadian GEM, a majority of their ensemble
members -as well as the ensemble average for the ECMWF- show big
changes in the pattern starting this weekend as strong blocking
develops along about 150W longitude. Some models show an arctic
front moving south across the area around New Years Eve that could
produce some snowfall over the area. Then most models show a
period of cold and windy weather with some strong Fraser outflow
at times after that. The details are likely to change and model
solutions may become inconsistent at times. So only minor changes
were made to the going extended forecast tonight. Albrecht
That forecast doesn't appear to discuss the period after January 1, which is the time frame the OP mentions. On the other hand, we all know that long range forecasts are less certain...not that short term forecasts are exactly certain, either!
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Old 12-26-2016, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Hollywood and Vine
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Good GAWD I was in Spokane last weekend ( not this Christmas one) and nearly froze to death already . I had to be outside and just could not handle it .
I believe this totally , I hope it's not as bad as you are thinking but last weekend was awful . I have some chronic stuff and am still not totally 100%
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Old 12-26-2016, 01:19 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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A friend of mine in West Seattle said Saturday it was really cold, and that the north end of town had snow.
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Old 12-26-2016, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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Looking at the 15 day forecast at weather.com

every day after new years will have a low below freezing with a quite a few snowy days predicted, the snowiest being Jan 3 with 1-3 inches expected. the 7th, 8th, and 9th are also predicted to receive about an inch each. the coldest day will be the 6th at 33/27
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Old 12-26-2016, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Portal to the Pacific
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Wow! The forecast changed a lot since this morning... now it's 1 inch of snow on Jan 1 followed by three days of sun...

This is why I avoid forecasts until a day or two ahead of time.
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