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OP, this is the King County forum. Asking about Brinnon, Port Angeles, et. al are better answered in the WA forum-- and I'm willing to bet they'll give you the same Heck No responses as well. If you choose to live out in the peninsula, then you have to factor in the ferry costs to/from Seattle, which is $$$$ and always going up.
You've keep bringing up meth labs-- are you not aware there's actually just as plenty here too? Do you live near a meth lab? - CNNMoney -- those are the ones that got caught, but there's plenty of hiding spots in the rural parts in WA. You've brought up heroin addicts, well you should be reading more on Seattle's approach to this problem-- honestly from what you've stated about OH, I know plenty of people in WWA who would be down with that because it sounds like the drug addicts are actually being removed.
Honestly, I guess there isn't really all much else to add because you don't seem to want to hear anything else. I feel bad for you. Goodspeed.
You say that North Dakota is bad, Minneapolis is bad, Ohio is bad...
and now those of us responding to you are bad too?
This is called a trend.
You say to us, "Oh you just don't understand! You don't know!"
I call BS.
I lived in the upper midwest for 5 years and all my family originates in various midwest states. I've lived near enough to the MN border and have visited Minneapolis PLENTY of times to know it's a lovely, vibrant city. I've lived near enough to the OH border to have visited many of Ohio's nice cities too. Yeah, sure, it's got it's issues, but we've pointed out we do too.
So why don't you define "help" for us?
What did you want, or expect to hear? ... That you're going to have an easy go of it?
You're not.
No. I'm sorry, but you're not getting off that easy. You will get on that bus knowing full well what you're getting yourself into and when it doesn't work out you will not be able to just turn around and add Seattle to your list of "bad" and cry to others "You don't understand! You don't know!
We do know.
And so do you even if you want to make like you don't.
Op, seriously, you're making a terrible mistake coming here with little to no income and no place to stay.
If you absolutely insist on coming here, you mentioned you own a house free and clear but it is having a hard time being sold in the current market where you are at. All houses (with very few exceptions) will sell if you lower the price enough. I don't know the price of real estate in NE Ohio where you claim to be from but I'm guessing it is probably not much cheaper than SE Alabama where I'm from ($60-70/sqft). Assuming you have an average size house (~1200 sqft) in average condition, you should be able to sell that at $40-50/sqft which will net you $40-50k after commissions. That is enough to rent an apartment for a year here even in the more expensive places in Seattle, if you intend to finish your journey in Seattle. I can't comment on what your new found wealth from selling your house will do to your eligibility for social services but I would guess it will have a negative impact to your ability to qualify if you all of a sudden have 40-50k in a bank account.
If you do that, from what I can gather from your posting, that would be all of your family's savings which will go quickly in King, Pierce, and Snohomish counties (covering Seattle and surrounding areas to the South, North, and East). Leaving you and your wife now without a place to live, with no more savings, or the ability to earn enough to live in this area. Should you pass, your wife will be left even more destitute in a very expensive part of the country.
I'm not as familiar with the southern end of Seattle, but the closest thing I can think of that is within 1-2 hours of Seattle via public transportation, with housing under $150/sqft, would be Sultan and surrounding areas (Goldbar, Index, etc). Those places are very very small (1-2 grocery stores, 3 gas stations, and a few restaurants) and don't have much in terms of easily accessible social services, but they do have public transportation to Seattle via bus. It will take you a while to get to Seattle, and you will be entirely dependent on when those buses run, but it is available. There are NO hospitals in those areas suitable to treat someone with as many medical issues as you, should you have a medical emergency.
Sultan and Goldbar are now where the well to do are fleeing to . I have one of my equine associates paying about $3000 ( a month -rent)for a very small house up there in Sultan at the moment and wants to move out of state . He is just worn out . He is from here also . I have mentioned this on another thread but I was SHOCKED (which is very hard to do ) to see an apt in YELM for $1200 ??? Not me .
Anyone coming out to the west coast has GOT to be prepared to pay to play . That's all I can say . Like Ink , I am surprised you are coming here not knowing the history of heroin in this area ???? It's still THE capitol of H and just about every other drug you can think of and may not have heard of. In the open in broad daylight .
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troll, Op is not coming. There is no sense of reason / continuity to the posts. Nor acknowledgement of suggestions in replies. (nor intent / care to acknowledge)
And yes many of us have lived and still have family in Midwest, including OH, MN, ND, IN, IL, WI... it is very livable and care (and caring people) are very accessible.
Reality will be found and reckoned with for those who arrive ill prepared. (anywhere, not just Seattle)
I told you guys what my health issues are .i used to live in North Dakota on the Minnesota border and Minnesota is a giant meth lab , the twin cities I.e Minneapolis/saint Paul is worse than south side Chicago, we used to get the evening news from Minnesota since we were on the border and the twin cities are a shooting gallery gang shootings everywhere it's horrible but the state hides it to keep buissnesses and misinformed relocaters coming in , everyone moving into North Dakota was running from gang violence in Minnesota,crips and bloods relocate to Minnesota to start new clicks . We sold our home in North Dakota that we bought to be closer to my daughter going to college there bc the healthcare system there nearly killed me with surgerical procedures that weren't needed and misdiagnosing a life threatening lung issue ,that's why I only have one operating lung and am on oxygen and yes my doctor spoke to doctors in Washington and due to in adequate care in Ohio the doctors in Washington have seen my history and can provide the proper care to extend my life and give me a quality of life . What ever negative thoughts you have of me are wrong , every social worker and doctor says get out here so we can help you, I can't say and you guys don't know the absolute misery the state of Ohio and it's doctors have inflicted on me since we moved back for my four way bypass which wouldn't have been needed if certain things would have even been spotted by the north Dakota doctors. All some of you do is fixate on rents in Seattle no says anything when I mentioned brinnon or any of the other outlying areas or rv campgrounds I've spoken to , yes it will be a hardship bc I can only stand assisted for 10 seconds and take 2-3 steps before I fall . I don't mind living where the guy who works at Burger King lives or the woman who stocks the produce at the Korean market. I'm not going to ruin "your" Seattle area I want tiny piece of Washington state that I can proudly call home , as long as it's an hour or two from the doctors I need to see.i think I'm willing to live where most of you wouldn't , like around the corner or down the street from the bar with all the Harley's out front or next door to Hells angels or bandidos or seattles only all African American 1% motorcycle club, maybe that's what you call ghetto or seedy , if I have to rent an rv in silver lake or up by port angeles so be it ,500 a month with all utilities included doesn't sound bad compared to what a lot of you are saying. I not your enemy or a heroin addict or the guy digging through your trash but that's how a lot of you treated me with your " I don't know how you expect Seattle to solve your problems" I'm sorry ohio and it's leadership are going down the toilet , all I know is I'm not going to let them take me with them .
But what about your wife? Is she willing to live in a risky neighborhood? You have to think about her safety and welfare, too.
OP, Stealth Rabbit gave you one of the most thoughtful and helpful posts on the whole thread, but you called it "hateful". She gave you some amazing, practical solutions, potentially. All she did is take one of your posts at face value, and go from there. You shouldn't bash people trying to help you.
IMO your best bet is Olympia, and some of the small towns in the general area of south Puget Sound, like Aberdeen. I see no reason to go to Seattle, where there's no place to find affordable rents, unless possibly you and your wife resign yourselves to renting a room in a communal household, if you could find one that would take the two of you. What is your wife's opinion of this move, btw?
OP, I wish you well, but you're jumping out of the frying pan straight into the fire. You sound like an individual who is going to do whatever you're going to due regardless of the facts. Again, I truly wish you well, but be prepared to be highly disappointed and homeless within a few days after getting off that bus.
Also, all the social programs here and around the Seattle area are running on fumes with many standing in line even for the most basic needs.
If you do end up taking that bus ride out here, Please purchase a return ticket BEFORE leaving Ohio so you'll have an exit plan BEFORE ending up on the streets. Plus, we're entering our normal period of wet and cold weather, which will last till April/May.
Otherwise, finding a rentable place for $500 a month including utilities in Western Washington seems extremely unlikely unless looking at Hoquiam which is three hours to the closest doctor and filled with the same people being claimed to fill Minneapolis.
Oh come now. There is a hospital and doctors in Aberdeen-Hoquiam. There are major hospitals and specialists in Olympia, about 50 miles away.
OP, I created an account and waited 24 hours to post just to reply to this.
I think you may be thinking along the lines of, "I will get the high cost of living benefits, and because I am an expert at living poor, I will live a low cost of living life. In this way, I can make the system work."
And that's admirable, that you are determined to make a better life and work as hard as you can to do it.
Unfortunately, many people have come to the West Coast (and New York, and other places) to try this and it doesn't work. Milk costs more. Coffee, even cheap coffee costs more. Gas costs more. There are no Wal-Marts downtown, and the bus fare will eat up your savings as you spend hours to get to a discount grocer. Our working families, with two wage earners, are going to food banks at the end of the month in some cases. The reason cars look cheaper is that gas guzzling cars cost more in gas than you can sell them for, especially with parking.
Puyallup is a smaller city with a good hospital and land for sale. Watch out for people selling on floodplains. But it's cheaper, and there are facilities. It's beautiful. Not great for COPD as the valley gathers some smog.
Lakewood is nearer JBLM (Joint Base Lewis McChord) and Madigan which also serves veterans. It's not fancy. There is meth and other bull**** in that town. Typical base town in some respects. However, it's not a pit. There are good people there. It could be a good start. There are social services especially for veterans.
Lacey, near Olympia, may have cheaper land and many places where you could park a trailer. Olympia has facilities as well.
I'm not saying this because you don't belong in Seattle. At one time, Seattle was a working class town and things were easier. But it's a boomtown right now and it is a hell of a rat race. A disabled vet with a dependent trying to make it on $1,100--wait until the bubble bursts, then find yourself a nice little spot in Shoreline. I'm not saying you can't make it but you have to be smarter than a "wing and a prayer" because we have wings and prayers dropping very hard working, hopeful, and poor people all over our streets right now and just a bit more planning would have made their lives way better.
Good luck to you.
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