City advancing broad legislation that essentially implements some kind of anarcho-communism in Seattle. (cinema, best)

[Taz22]

Originally Posted by Transmition

Free to visit each other's houses? From what I heard, a group of protesters tried to protest in front of her house and were turned away, so they left. I know it's not quite as exciting as thinking they were going to lynch her or wreck her house, but reality is often far more boring. It's not really mob rule when you can tell the mob to leave and then they do.

This wasn’t a friendly visit. They showed up to cause mayhem. Remember the attorneys who faced down an angry mob, who were shouting that they were going to come in and live in their house? That must have been a horrible experience for that couple, and for everyone else who has gotten a surprise visit from an angry group of people. There are stories of elected officials and others being visited and harassed by mobs all over the country these days. This method seems to have taken off. If this is the preferred way to settle disagreements, it will trickle down to the rest of us, when we publicly say something that others don’t like.


Peaceful protest is one thing, but innocent people have been killed and beaten since these riots started. There are thugs and miscreants in with peaceful protesters who want to cause trouble. How about the rights of business owners who had their business looted or couldn’t open their stores because of troublemakers?


There are bad apples in the Police Dept, just like every other profession. There are also cops who do a good job at upholding the law. Defunding the SPD is not the best way, how about finding those bad apples and firing them for starters? If someone breaks in my house, I’m not calling a social worker.

[ben young]

Originally Posted by pnwguy2

Communism, Marxism, whatever you want to call it will be defeated. Most residents of Seattle are sane. However, we need to get rid of the district by district city council. All positions should be voted on by all residents, IMO. Guess what? Not everyone in the city is a far leftist. In fact, not even a simple majority are.

The public are no more than SHEEP. The loan one or two rams that step out to protect the flock get eaten by the Wolves. The same happens with Humans.

[BlakeJones]

Originally Posted by pnwguy2

Communism, Marxism, whatever you want to call it will be defeated. Most residents of Seattle are sane. However, we need to get rid of the district by district city council. All positions should be voted on by all residents, IMO. Guess what? Not everyone in the city is a far leftist. In fact, not even a simple majority are.

Before big tech took over, Seattle was and still is the largest nexus of commercial fisheries in the United States. I can only wonder what these blue collar guys are thinking when they see these neurotic soyboys crying hysterically and breaking everything night after night and the politicians saying *shrug*

[BlakeJones]

Originally Posted by LogaKoga

'anarcho-communism' is a self-negating term. Consider a couple definitions from dictionary.com:

Anarchy: a state of society without government or law.

Communism: a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state.

So anarchy is the absence of all government and law while communism entails everything being owned and controlled by the government. So a society can't be both anarchic and communist; it's a fundamental contradiction.

The anarchy is the tool to take down the "system", communism is what they want to fill the void.

These people are SO dumb. They have absolutely no concept whatsoever about the colossal scale of the 20 TRILLION DOLLAR per year capitalist engine that is the United States. They are gadflies, if they managed to take up arms they would be slaughtered. There is absolutely no chance they succeed, NONE.

These are basically Race theory or Women studies majors with $200,000 in student debt and can only find work at Starbucks. No wonder they're bitter, they're morons who are unemployable. They thought they were smart, but turns out they're complete losers with no prospects so they're lashing out like the petulant little children they are

[Transmition]

Originally Posted by LogaKoga

'anarcho-communism' is a self-negating term. Consider a couple definitions from dictionary.com:

Anarchy: a state of society without government or law.

Communism: a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state.

So anarchy is the absence of all government and law while communism entails everything being owned and controlled by the government. So a society can't be both anarchic and communist; it's a fundamental contradiction.

It's because you have assumed that communism has a government, which it doesn't. The big step that every "communist" country misses out is the dismantling of the government after all of the processes have been put in place to ensure supplies and work are completely set up.



Communism wouldn't actually work, human nature won't allow it to and it is not practical, but that is the idea and that is why anarcho-communism isn't a contradiction. You don't really need the communism bit in there, the accepted definition of a society based on anarchy is that of a commune anyway, although based on a small scale. The more colloquial usages of the words are what are tripping you up.

[BlakeJones]

Originally Posted by Transmition

It's because you have assumed that communism has a government, which it doesn't. The big step that every "communist" country misses out is the dismantling of the government after all of the processes have been put in place to ensure supplies and work are completely set up.

Communism wouldn't actually work, human nature won't allow it to and it is not practical, but that is the idea and that is why anarcho-communism isn't a contradiction. You don't really need the communism bit in there, the accepted definition of a society based on anarchy is that of a commune anyway, although based on a small scale. The more colloquial usages of the words are what are tripping you up.

What you say is true, but it's a lot deeper than that. The Communist Manifesto was written by Karl Marx, a nasty, bitter man who hated the world. His fundamental ideology is that there is nothing good in the world, just a bunch of group identities seeking to grab power from eachother. Everyone has to be labelled into a group, so you that you can identify which group is the victim and which is the victimizer. The victimizer group then has to be eliminated (Gulag, firing squad, etc..). The problem is that for every victimizer group you eliminate, there is now the need for a new group to focus on. Eventually each group of victims all of a sudden becomes the victimizers

So even though in naive theory Communism is about eliminating successful, wealthy people in order to put all their stuff in one pot and distribute evenly, everyone just turns on eachother. It becomes a breeding ground for the most ruthless person to succeed and he ends up the totalitarian dictator who does whatever he wants. You better hope he's not a genocidal maniac like almost all Communist leaders in history, it's very unlikely

[Gardyloo]

Could someone please tell me how the City of Seattle could institute social ownership of pretty much anything, given the limitations on the city's powers conveyed in the Washington state constitution and state statutes covering local government (RCW Title 35)?

[Kevroqs]

Originally Posted by Botev1912

That would be a disaster. What kind of people elected the current city clowncil?

Seattle is way too far to the left, and this is what you would expect. They're taking a page from the playbook of San Francisco

[Cinema Cat]

Originally Posted by BlakeJones

These people are SO dumb. They have absolutely no concept whatsoever about the colossal scale of the 20 TRILLION DOLLAR per year capitalist engine that is the United States. They are gadflies, if they managed to take up arms they would be slaughtered. There is absolutely no chance they succeed, NONE.

In which case, the question becomes: WHY does this all-powerful capitalist engine give the rioters free reign to loot and destroy?

The best answer I can come up with is: The Deep State Globalists & Neocons are threatened by the rise of Populist & Nationalist sentiment worldwide.

And so the Deep State is using Antifa/BLM as their storm troopers to crush Populist/Nationalist dissent.

Then, when the Deep State feels that Populism/Nationalism are safely destroyed, they will turn around and use the Antifa/BLM riots as an excuse to expand the police state, and crush the rioters.