Is anyone else disappointed with the way capital hill and downtown Seattle has gone downhill over the past 2 years?? (Bellevue: real estate, to rent)

[41Willys]

Originally Posted by Transmition

Comparing any other time to now is unfair, we are in a very unusual situation and everything is still in flux. It's like complaining that your best friend is not fun anymore while they are in bed with the flu.

mmmm, not quite......

This is an interesting thread.I have lived here for 2 years. Now? compared to this time last year in downtown Seattle? Night and day difference!!

[Cinema Cat]

Originally Posted by primaltech

Crime is largely caused by the GOP-led, failed war on drugs. And economic factors, also GOP-championed.

I don't support the war on drugs, but it's not "GOP-led."

We've had a war on drugs for at least a century, even when Democrats had full control of the federal government. It's always been a bipartisan effort.

[primaltech]

Originally Posted by Cinema Cat

We've had a war on drugs for at least a century, even when Democrats had full control of the federal government. It's always been a bipartisan effort.

Then why is it all the blue states have legalized recreational marijuana, and all the red states (besides Alaska) are living in the dark ages? Total coincidence I guess?

[Cinema Cat]

Originally Posted by primaltech

Then why is it all the blue states have legalized recreational marijuana, and all the red states (besides Alaska) are living in the dark ages? Total coincidence I guess?

You're cherry picking a tiny factoid (and I'm not even sure how true it is) that's a few years old. But the war on drugs has been ongoing for over a century.

The 1973 formation of the federal Drug Enforcement Administration was one of the largest escalations in the history of the war on drugs. The DEA is responsible for a lion's share of the civil rights violations that came with the war on drugs.

The DEA was part of a plan proposed by Nixon, but approved by Congress -- both houses of which was controlled by Democrats in 1973: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_E...Administration

The Drug Enforcement Administration was established on July 1, 1973, by Reorganization Plan No. 2 of 1973, signed by President Richard Nixon on July 28. It proposed the creation of a single federal agency to enforce the federal drug laws as well as consolidate and coordinate the government's drug control activities. Congress accepted the proposal, as they were concerned with the growing availability of drugs.

As a result, the Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs (BNDD), the Office of Drug Abuse Law Enforcement (ODALE); approximately 600 Special Agents of the Bureau of Customs, Customs Agency Service, and other federal offices merged to create the DEA.

Note that those latter agencies had already been in existence for decades before the creation of the DEA.

Do remember the 1930s film Reefer Madness? It was part of the war on marijuana. FDR was president at the time, and Democrats controlled both houses of Congress.

If you don't think the Democrats are co-leaders in the war on drugs, tell me why Obama didn't eliminate the DEA during his first two years, when the Democrats controlled both houses of Congress? He had the power.

[primaltech]

Well it's also because the Dems have only been the socially progressive party for a few decades.

Obama was on the center moderate left, and public opinion changed dramatically since he started office. But the point here is that the liberals and progressives are generally way ahead of the conservatives on the issue of legalization, the GOP is almost all social conservatives, and legalization is a great tool to reduce crime.

[yasureoktoo]

I lived in Capital hill, and moved to Issaquah about 20 hours before the chop thing happened. Wheeeeeeew

[bergun]

Originally Posted by yasureoktoo

I lived in Capital hill, and moved to Issaquah about 20 hours before the chop thing happened. Wheeeeeeew

HA!!! You dodged that bullet!!!

[thatguy950]

Originally Posted by bergun

HA!!! You dodged that bullet!!!

Or missed an opportunity to become the next CHAZ warlord after Raz what’s his name got hauled off by the 5-0

[87112]

https://www.foxnews.com/us/seattle-p...dows-4-arrests

Looks like Joe Biden's voter base is peacefully out and about again. I'm a liberal as long as no one is killed let them continue.

[Cinema Cat]

Originally Posted by 87112

I'm a liberal as long as no one is killed let them continue.

I'd change it to "as long as no one is killed, assaulted, threatened or vandalized let them continue."