I am so tired of living in an insane asylum; in a social experiment (Seattle: crime, home)

[BjorntheCold]

https://komonews.com/news/local/peop...users-security

This isn't working, Washington. It just isn't. I know that you feel like we are amazingly more advanced than 1970s society, with their 'evil' mental institutions. But leaving these people a) out in the weather, b) drugged out of their minds, c) assaulting each other (and us), and d) constantly burning down their own encampments just isn't the answer. And no, tiny home communities WILL NOT WORK. If these were the placid, gentle 'disadvantaged' that you painted them to be, sure, that would be a lovely little solution. But they're not, are they? - they're violent, mentally-ill addicts. They can't be civilized; they can't BE fixed in that way. They spend their days screaming at cars and mutilating squirrels; hurling rocks off overpasses and playing with lighters. They aren't 'a project' you can repair.

It's time for us to acknowledge - as so many societies have before us - that there is a certain slice of humanity that is just broken. The human mind is a wonderfully complex instrument, but in its complexity, there is just an enormous amount of room for damage and error. And when that happens, no amount of love, counseling, medication, or prayer is going to fix things. And when you reach that conclusion, it becomes very obvious that said people should not be left wandering the streets ASSAULTING PEOPLE.

I know, citizens of Seattle, that you have been taught to think that such notions are heartless. But did those innocents deserve a hammer to the skull? Just for the crime of taking the light rail home on a Thursday? How high is the price you're willing to pay to carry on feeling righteous?

By the way - as of this writing? The guy is still on the loose.

[Ruth4Truth]

"There is a large police presence" at the Beacon Hill light rail station, even though witnesses saw the perp ride away in one of the light rail cars, presumably to his next location to continue his spree? Shouldn't there be police boarding at all the stations along the perp's route, rather tha guarding the station he left behind?

[pathrunner]

Originally Posted by Ruth4Truth

"There is a large police presence" at the Beacon Hill light rail station, even though witnesses saw the perp ride away in one of the light rail cars, presumably to his next location to continue his spree? Shouldn't there be police boarding at all the stations along the perp's route, rather than guarding the station he left behind?

Seriously? That's what they did?

[BjorntheCold]

Originally Posted by Ruth4Truth

"There is a large police presence" at the Beacon Hill light rail station, even though witnesses saw the perp ride away in one of the light rail cars, presumably to his next location to continue his spree? Shouldn't there be police boarding at all the stations along the perp's route, rather tha guarding the station he left behind?

According to the news, there were also large-scale private security hirings conducted by the light rail last month. Where were these people? If they aren't guarding stations, what are they doing?

[Nausikaa]

Locked the stable door after the horse bolted.

[heavymind]

What's up with hammer attacks in Seattle? There was another one last winter where someone was killed in broad daylight.
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/man...C3J232J52DN5M/

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by pathrunner

Seriously? That's what they did?

Yes, that's what they did.

[Ruth4Truth]

Is there a driver in each front car? If so, is there a way to communicate with the driver, to let him know there's a violent rider on his train, so he can automatically lock all the doors, or watch surveillance cameras?

Somehow, knowing that transit authorities had police rush to what at that moment was the safest station on the route, because the perp had left, doesn't inspire confidence that transit authorities and police can think fast enough to take steps to catch the guy in transit.

[primaltech]

Originally Posted by BjorntheCold

https://komonews.com/news/local/peop...users-security

This isn't working, Washington. It just isn't. I know that you feel like we are amazingly more advanced than 1970s society, with their 'evil' mental institutions. But leaving these people a) out in the weather, b) drugged out of their minds, c) assaulting each other (and us), and d) constantly burning down their own encampments just isn't the answer. And no, tiny home communities WILL NOT WORK. If these were the placid, gentle 'disadvantaged' that you painted them to be, sure, that would be a lovely little solution. But they're not, are they? - they're violent, mentally-ill addicts. They can't be civilized; they can't BE fixed in that way. They spend their days screaming at cars and mutilating squirrels; hurling rocks off overpasses and playing with lighters. They aren't 'a project' you can repair.

It's time for us to acknowledge - as so many societies have before us - that there is a certain slice of humanity that is just broken. The human mind is a wonderfully complex instrument, but in its complexity, there is just an enormous amount of room for damage and error. And when that happens, no amount of love, counseling, medication, or prayer is going to fix things. And when you reach that conclusion, it becomes very obvious that said people should not be left wandering the streets ASSAULTING PEOPLE.

I know, citizens of Seattle, that you have been taught to think that such notions are heartless. But did those innocents deserve a hammer to the skull? Just for the crime of taking the light rail home on a Thursday? How high is the price you're willing to pay to carry on feeling righteous?

By the way - as of this writing? The guy is still on the loose.

So what are you suggesting, specifically?

I agree with the emotional rant of wishing we could get rid of all the mentally ill people in Seattle, and drugs and homelessness, etc. But, how do we actually do that? Since we can't throw everyone into a volcano.

[zerp]

Originally Posted by heavymind

What's up with hammer attacks in Seattle? There was another one last winter where someone was killed in broad daylight.
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/man...C3J232J52DN5M/

What do you expect?

Hammers aren’t banned.
There’s no Universal Background Checks required to get a hammer.
There’s no permission slip…err conceal carry license required to hide a hammer on your person before you attack.
There’s no weight/mass capacity limit on how heavy your hammer can be, thus ensuring anyone can get an assault hammer.
No waiting period before taking possession of your hammer after buying it.