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Old 07-23-2017, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Formerly New England now Texas!
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If it is possible North Korea will launch an EMP attack against the U.S. how would one go about protecting electronics in a home without taking everything off grid and enclosing the house in a Faraday cage? How would one size a whole home surge suppressor, and what is the difference between type 1 and 2.
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Old 07-23-2017, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Backwoods of Maine
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North Korea is a mouse, and no threat to the US.

There are political factions and media outlets that would like us to fear NK, as a distraction from the real issues. Save your money.
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Old 07-23-2017, 08:18 PM
 
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from what I've read Surge protectors won't work against an EMP because the initial pulse will be faster and stronger than the circuit breaker or surge protector can handle.


The sun, Nk, China, iran, russia, and hell even evil nwo globalists within the deep state are all capable of destroying our grid with an EMP, a physical kinetic attack on transformers/substations or electronically by hackers.

There are many very real ways we can find ourselves in a position where our grid is down for a very long time. It just comes down to means and motivation. Who stands to gain by America being weaked, and do they have the means and will to do it.

I still wouldn't put it past the deep state to knowingly "let/facilitate" it to happen so they can gain more power from it.

I still think China would let NK do it to weaken us as their patsie. With America out of the way the entire Pacific basin would be China's. Whatever China wants Taiwan, phillippines etc they could have and we wouldn't be in a position to intervene


If you have the resources..... Build a large faraday cage out of a metal barn/shed and store a while lot of spare electrical conponents, solar panels, a full spare off the grid power production set up, generators, car ecu computers etc...
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Old 07-24-2017, 07:05 AM
 
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For reference here is a recent near miss solar storm that had potential to make things unpleasant.

The Big Wobble: We got lucky! Monster sunspot AR2665 which faced Earth two weeks ago ejects a massive flare as big as the Carrington event and it's coming back
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Old 07-24-2017, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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from what I've read Surge protectors won't work against an EMP because the initial pulse will be faster and stronger than the circuit breaker or surge protector can handle.


The sun, Nk, China, iran, russia, and hell even evil nwo globalists within the deep state are all capable of destroying our grid with an EMP, a physical kinetic attack on transformers/substations or electronically by hackers.

There are many very real ways we can find ourselves in a position where our grid is down for a very long time. It just comes down to means and motivation. Who stands to gain by America being weaked, and do they have the means and will to do it.

I still wouldn't put it past the deep state to knowingly "let/facilitate" it to happen so they can gain more power from it.

I still think China would let NK do it to weaken us as their patsie. With America out of the way the entire Pacific basin would be China's. Whatever China wants Taiwan, phillippines etc they could have and we wouldn't be in a position to intervene


If you have the resources..... Build a large faraday cage out of a metal barn/shed and store a while lot of spare electrical conponents, solar panels, a full spare off the grid power production set up, generators, car ecu computers etc...
What nonsense!

People do not wish to reduce the size or quality of a class or nation. The U.S. is China's largest customer and debtor. The wealthiest people in the world wish to have the best of all possible worlds. Only the have-nots wish for a collapse allowing them to become masters. However, they will never be masters of their own lives, let alone anyone else's.

Not even the North Korean royal family desires this. Kim wishes to continue to live in splendor, not as a Paleolithic warlord who can't get soap.

There are plenty of real and immediate problems. The have-nots never address them because, as usual, they have no way to solve them.
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Old 07-24-2017, 03:40 PM
 
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How would one size a whole home surge suppressor, and what is the difference between type 1 and 2.
A minimal 'whole house' protector is 50,000 amps. This number defines protector life expectancy over many surges. If concerned for the quality if protection during one surge, then earth ground must have all of your attention.

Same solution in nuclear hardened facilities that makes lightning damage irrelevant is also for EMP protection.

Type 1, 2, 3 etc define human safety. A protector must never threaten human life. A type 3 protector in a type one location can cause a house fire. 'Type' says nothing about surge protection or quality of earth ground.
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Old 07-24-2017, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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The most reliable surge protection is complete isolation from the grid. That is actually pretty easy to accomplish, if you have 3 phase power available. A 50 hp electric motor driving a 48 kw generator will give you a 200 amp residential service. Electric motors have the marvelous characteristic of not drawing any more power than they need to run the load, so you electric bill won't even be that large. Under-loaded electric motors lose efficiency, so you want to keep the motor loaded at at least 15%, which will give you around 80% efficiency, or you can switch to mostly natural gas or propane appliances and go with a much smaller isolation design.

https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/fi...5/10097517.pdf
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