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It will not be so bad, if the only country we had to dealt with was Mexico, but there are about 23 countries in South America, that can get to the USA through Mexico......that is the biggest problem....
Because Mexico doesn't want to illegals in their country so they encourage/facilitate them to continue northward add not stop. If Mexico knew that they would not be granted access to the US from a barrier and strict policies....mexico would not be so quick to let them through knowing they will become their problem.
Look at all the stories where Mexicans agree with president Trump's policy. Many Mexicans do not agree with these caravans or illegals either but you will never hear it in the MSM
There is no one measure that will stop this, but until sufficient physical barriers (walls, fences, etc) are in place to stop 99% of them, all other measures will fail. The minor little fence they tunneled under in AZ is, and has been for years, an advertisement to the world that we need a barrier like Trump wants. Even the fence along the AZ border, half of the size Trump wants, has been reported to be 94% effective by the Border Patrol.
That is why I will not discuss ANYTHING about immigration, until the wall is built. Trump originally asked for $25B for just under 1000 miles, and is now proposing $5B, so he has already met the Demoncrats 80% of the way, and they want more.
I don't think $25B or 1000 miles is enough, and since illegal immigration already costs us far, far, more than $5B a year, building it will already be at Mexico's expense.
Trouble is, Leftists are not interested in negotiating, since their masters actually desire the destruction of our nation, and their minions and useful idiots know nothing except who will give them the biggest handout. Oh, yeah, and they know they must not let people like us, who know the truth have a fair opportunity to express ourselves, or live our lives without their interference.
So the question is "Why do liberals not support Trump's wall? Do they not care about the risk our country faces from an economic and national security standpoint?".... https://qr.ae/TUnxLW
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So what happened after I posted this conservative-sourced, fact-based list of why the wall is a bad idea?
Silence.
I waited for someone to respond, to engage with me. Where were the angry defenses or rebuttals? But when I searched for the post after a few days, I couldn’t find it.
My FB friend had deleted it. You could say, like Trump with the government, he shut me down rather than deal with the facts.
If nothing else, nobody who wants a wall has ever addressed how we're going to get around #5. The sad thing about #5 is some of the people who live along the border voted for Trump, but they themselves never thought to put two-and-two together that if we put up the wall, they need to sell their land to the US government, losing access to the Rio Grande river, and closing down their farms. When asked by news reporters what they thought Trump was going to do if he built his wall, they had no answer other than "trump will think up of something", and somehow build the wall without disrupting their property.
So the question is "Why do liberals not support Trump's wall? Do they not care about the risk our country faces from an economic and national security standpoint?"....
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That is a very good question.
One part of the answer is, many of them believe
leftist talking points and other garbage like the Quara
opinion piece linked to in your post.
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If nothing else, nobody who wants a wall has ever addressed how we're going to get around #5. The sad thing about #5 is some of the people who live along the border voted for Trump, but they themselves never thought to put two-and-two together that if we put up the wall, they need to sell their land to the US government, losing access to the Rio Grande river, and closing down their farms.
It is not "fact" that they didn't "put two and two together" nor is it absolute that they will need to sell their land, or lose access to the river. Those ideas are conjecture, and shows either a lack of ingenuity or lack of integrity, on the part of whoever came up with that talking point.
Because Mexico doesn't want to illegals in their country so they encourage/facilitate them to continue northward add not stop. If Mexico knew that they would not be granted access to the US from a barrier and strict policies....mexico would not be so quick to let them through knowing they will become their problem.
Look at all the stories where Mexicans agree with president Trump's policy. Many Mexicans do not agree with these caravans or illegals either but you will never hear it in the MSM
As usual, you are just blowing hot air. An increasing number of refugees are choosing to resettle in Mexico, and Mexico is changing policies to accommodate them. "Never" is a really long time, which in your world seems to be a little over a month.
One part of the answer is, many of them believe
leftist talking points and other garbage like the Quara
opinion piece linked to in your post.
It is not "fact" that they didn't "put two and two together" nor is it absolute that they will need to sell their land, or lose access to the river. Those ideas are conjecture, and shows either a lack of ingenuity or lack of integrity, on the part of whoever came up with that talking point.
While Trump visited the border in Texas there was one rancher who really wanted the a wall. He owned 5 miles of border frontage, and wanted all those Mexicans to quit walking across his land. I had to wonder what he thought the wall would accomplish. If the feds can't afford to patrol the border now, it's not like they will be able to afford patrols after they spent all their money on a wall.
As for the ranchers losing water access for the cattle along the river, I'm sure they can find Mexican contractors to chop cattle gates through the wall. They would probably work for chimichangas, beer and scrap metal.
One part of the answer is, many of them believe
leftist talking points and other garbage like the Quara
opinion piece linked to in your post.
It is not "fact" that they didn't "put two and two together" nor is it absolute that they will need to sell their land, or lose access to the river. Those ideas are conjecture, and shows either a lack of ingenuity or lack of integrity, on the part of whoever came up with that talking point.
Again, you have NOT addressed ANY of the real concerns that critics of the border wall are posting. I really hope you don't get all of your "negotiating tips" from Trump. People were asking what he has against a 27-year veteran in the US Navy Seals, and the best retort he could come up with "let you stop you there. He's a Hillary supporter". Would you want your workplace to operate like that? You speak up because a budget is faar unrealistic, but others shoot you down NOT based on facts and real figures, but because you're a Trump or Hillary supporter
There is no one measure that will stop this, but until sufficient physical barriers (walls, fences, etc) are in place to stop 99% of them, all other measures will fail. The minor little fence they tunneled under in AZ is, and has been for years, an advertisement to the world that we need a barrier like Trump wants. Even the fence along the AZ border, half of the size Trump wants, has been reported to be 94% effective by the Border Patrol.
That is why I will not discuss ANYTHING about immigration, until the wall is built. Trump originally asked for $25B for just under 1000 miles, and is now proposing $5B, so he has already met the Demoncrats 80% of the way, and they want more.
I don't think $25B or 1000 miles is enough, and since illegal immigration already costs us far, far, more than $5B a year, building it will already be at Mexico's expense.
Trouble is, Leftists are not interested in negotiating, since their masters actually desire the destruction of our nation, and their minions and useful idiots know nothing except who will give them the biggest handout. Oh, yeah, and they know they must not let people like us, who know the truth have a fair opportunity to express ourselves, or live our lives without their interference.
Back when Reps had the house, the Dems DID agree to that. Except Trump flipflopped.
Now that the Dems have the house they're actually pulling the same play from Trump's playbook. Recall trump would hire contractors from small companies who couldn't afford to go after him legally for underpaying those workers. Here, there's no reason to give in. It's well known that if a terrorist makes demands and you cave in, you're going to see more of that. If a child throws a tantrum at a toy store and you give in, he's only going to learn that this works. The Reps didn't have what it took to reign in Trump, but the Dems can make sure that Trump's toddler tantrums won't destroy what's left of the US government.
Back when Reps had the house, the Dems DID agree to that. Except Trump flipflopped.
Now that the Dems have the house they're actually pulling the same play from Trump's playbook. Recall trump would hire contractors from small companies who couldn't afford to go after him legally for underpaying those workers. Here, there's no reason to give in. It's well known that if a terrorist makes demands and you cave in, you're going to see more of that. If a child throws a tantrum at a toy store and you give in, he's only going to learn that this works. The Reps didn't have what it took to reign in Trump, but the Dems can make sure that Trump's toddler tantrums won't destroy what's left of the US government.
That just dives into politics, which is irrelevant. A wall only works if nobody knows it's there. It's the same reason a survivalist redoubt only works if nobody knows it's there. If you make a public statement, somebody will tear it down. The wall is just stupid, no matter what politics you adhere to.
A wall, defending the border to our country, is repugnant
to those who have walls defending them from us commoners.
Just as guns in the hands of common citizens are perceived
as a threat to those who have armed guards protecting them.
(And, in each case, those elitists are supported by useful idiots.)
Nailed it. Well said.
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