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Why would you call me an anti-gunner? Because I believe in obeying laws or because I agree that convicted felons and people with sever mental problems shouldn't have access to firearms?
Why do you think felons should be denied firearms? Realize that "because it's illegal" is circular logic and invalid.
I do think violent felons should be denied firearms. I couldn't care less about nonviolent felons.
Severe mental problems are not even an issue. By law, psychiatric treatment is secret. You aren't going to make psychiatric intervention public record unless the supreme court overturns Roe v. Wade.
I'm a non-prepper, and I actually think this experience has shown me how absurd prepping is. This is a once-in-a-lifetime sort of virus, which is the very sort of thing preppers prep for. And guess what? Thus far, the system has mostly worked. Sure, there might be a temporary difficulty in getting some things like toilet paper or milk, but the supply chain is still very much in place.
No part of me thinks "Man, the effort and expense that preppers undergo to be prepared for this sort of thing would have been worth it."
I live in a city that has had coronavirus deaths, and I can still go to the store and buy groceries. I still have about a month's worth of food at my house right now. Your SHTF scenario is happening, and it's doing nothing but proving that preppers have been wasting their time.
Exactly, these guys have proven nothing. Only thing people should be stockpiling for a SHTF scenario is ammo, other than that these preppers are probably the same ones fighting others for tp.
Yeah, I'm "law abiding," I just pick which laws to abide and how I do it. People who mindlessly follow any rule have the mentality of a serf. If you want me to follow orders, we'll talk. It's going to cost you. I'm nobody's monkey for free, and I may refuse to take your money.
I won't follow any law that is unconstitutional and most firearm laws are just that.
Exactly, these guys have proven nothing. Only thing people should be stockpiling for a SHTF scenario is ammo, other than that these preppers are probably the same ones fighting others for tp.
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Originally Posted by Woody01
Haven't you paid attention...? The 'preppers' already had plenty of TP. And everything else most likely.
If anything, this little crisis should be a wake up call to the regular people to at least be 'semi-preppers'
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Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer
I don't think they understand what it means. I'm a good solid 2 months from needing anything from a store. If anything I'll barter with my buddies.
That's the thing- people who are mobbing gun stores and emptying shelves of toilet paper and whatever are *not* 'preppers, they are people who were UNPREPARED, caught with their pants down and now in 'panic mode'.
*Real* 'preppers', people who are actually *already* prepared for various scenarios (whatever their probability rating) simply sat (are sitting) back, relatively relaxed and secure in the knowledge that they have what it takes to ride out this event for some period of time. They already have their TP, food, water, energy, guns, ammo, etc., and plans/provisions for enduring longer term scenarios, they didn't/don't need to go running out to 'stock-up' on stuff.
As far as shortages, I went out one day this past week to pick up some 'Crazy Glue' and a few other odds and ends (for projects that I want to get to while I am not risking my life at my 'job' producing luxury products for wealthy people)...and I can say that not all areas have no disruptions to the supply chain. Shelves have been bare of not just TP, but canned goods, flour, rice, beans (canned and dry), and some meats. I observed some of this myself, and talked to people working in some establishments who said that they were uncertain as to when any re-stocking would occur. Fresh vegetables and snack foods appeared plentiful, however.
I see some people posting things that seem to be saying that this is really a 'non-event'. That is crazy-talk. This is serious, and it has only just begun. It has the capacity to get much, much worse- *especially* if people don't start taking it seriously. Infections are rising, death tolls are rising, health care and law enforcement cases are rising, which removes them from their jobs and prevents them from assisting in both disease-stricken people and others experiencing other emergencies. I have already seen reports of law enforcement no longer responding to 9-1-1 calls, and medical personnel responding to emergencies where, if the victim does not have a pulse, no efforts are made in regards to resuscitation or other treatment and transport to a hospital.
Sure, *some* places may still see stuff on the shelves now, and no issues with supply, but farmers are reporting that they have no workers to harvest their crops, which are going to rot in the fields as their harvest dates begin arriving in the next few days and weeks. Crops rotting in the fields now means empty shelves not long in the future. People have got to stop acting stupid. Things are not going to go back to 'normal' next week. Things are not going to go back to 'normal' next month.
If people don't get smart, this could very well get a lot worse- health-care facilities overloaded, people dying in the streets, crops rotting and food supplies being reduced, health and law enforcement agencies unable to respond...and then the 'preppers' are *really* going to start looking smart, and those who are unprepared will become angry, because they were not...
I don't sell firearms, never have so I have no worry about who gets them. I collect firearms. All of my firearms are legal as there is no requirement for old long guns to be registered. Many States forbid registries as well it should be because the only reason to register firearms is for eventual confiscation.
We have NICS there is no reason on this planet to have a gun registry.
That is simply wrong as I have demonstrated above using the parallel with motor vehicles and the ability to track ownership and culpability when they are used in the execution of a crime.
The tired, paranoid confiscation theory is baseless.
Yeah, I'm "law abiding," I just pick which laws to abide and how I do it. People who mindlessly follow any rule have the mentality of a serf. If you want me to follow orders, we'll talk. It's going to cost you. I'm nobody's monkey for free, and I may refuse to take your money.
So you ignore whatever laws you choose; thank you for clarifying.
How much do you charge to be somebody's monkey?
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