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Why should he have to eat at home? He's paying for the sandwich.
Purchasing a sandwich does not indicate where he has the right to eat it. Just like how when I purchase a car, I don't have the right to just drive it around the dealer lot all day.
If the restaurant offers seating for patrons, he'd have the ability to use that seating. But they have to offer it. Simply purchasing a sandwich there does not explicitly indicate permission to eat on site.
I don’t really care if a machine is programmed to ask for tips, but I don’t feel at all guilty about passing.
If you hand me a bag of food over the counter, I’m not tipping you.
$0/hr in tips = $7.25/hr in income
$5/hr in tips = $7.25/hr in income
$100/hr in tips = $102.13/hr in income
No matter what, waiters receive a minimum in $7.25/hr in total income.
Being a lawyer, you probably would not know that the Labor Board has zero interest in following up these kinds of rules. In TX and UT, you get only $2.13, same as it's been since the 60s. I worked in a couple places that did not even PAY at all; no paycheck. Labor Board was not interested.
"On a slow day" I walked away with $20 so no, not getting minimum wage at all. I left that place after I realized what was going on, but it happened again in another place. Blatant law-breaking---but no laws help the little guy.
I did end up in a great place where I netted $30 an hour after tips, until they fell under cheating management too; then I retired.
So I see both sides of the coin and am in fact glad to live in a country without tips. If anything, there is a community tip jar but no one seems to care much about it---the staff get paid fairly. We drop a couple bucks in usually, but no one expects it.
Being a lawyer, you probably would not know that the Labor Board has zero interest in following up these kinds of rules. In TX and UT, you get only $2.13, same as it's been since the 60s. I worked in a couple places that did not even PAY at all; no paycheck. Labor Board was not interested.
"On a slow day" I walked away with $20 so no, not getting minimum wage at all. I left that place after I realized what was going on, but it happened again in another place. Blatant law-breaking---but no laws help the little guy.
I did end up in a great place where I netted $30 an hour after tips, until they fell under cheating management too; then I retired.
So I see both sides of the coin and am in fact glad to live in a country without tips. If anything, there is a community tip jar but no one seems to care much about it---the staff get paid fairly. We drop a couple bucks in usually, but no one expects it.
In TX and UT, what I said holds true if and only if everyone's abiding by law.
$0/hr in tips = $7.25/hr in income
$5/hr in tips = $7.25/hr in income
$100/hr in tips = $102.13/hr in income
No matter what, waiters receive a minimum in $7.25/hr in total income.
That's federal law. You don't need to be a lawyer to understand minimum wage laws.
There are certain states where tipped employees must be paid at least minimum wage (not the federal minimum wage, but the minimum wage for that particular state) no matter what they make in tips. California, Oregon, and Alaska are three of them.
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Yesterday was a new one for us. We were ordering online for a local pizza place, for us to pick up.
They had a $5 service fee/tip that you could not unselect. It's a pricey place too, very good quality and they charge for it. Somehow this really turned us off and we ended up ordering from another place.
when I went to pick up at the new place, it had the tip screen but you could select no tip or any amount.Ive become used to that now. I really resented the $5 automatic tip for me to pick up a pizza. no thank you
Yesterday was a new one for us. We were ordering online for a local pizza place, for us to pick up.
They had a $5 service fee/tip that you could not unselect. It's a pricey place too, very good quality and they charge for it. Somehow this really turned us off and we ended up ordering from another place.
when I went to pick up at the new place, it had the tip screen but you could select no tip or any amount.Ive become used to that now. I really resented the $5 automatic tip for me to pick up a pizza. no thank you
Was it a service fee or a tip? Your post is contradictory. They can't force you to pay a tip. Any required fee is a service fee.
I went to Subway yesterday. The machine defaulted to a 15% tip, so I had to manually press no tip. The sandwich makers are doing the job they are being paid for, nothing more. There is no service involved.
Previously, at the same Subway a few years ago, there was one girl doing everything. The line was out the door and she just kept churning out the sandwiches, calmly and efficiently. I gave her a $5. tip, because she was doing the work of at least two people.
Was it a service fee or a tip? Your post is contradictory. They can't force you to pay a tip. Any required fee is a service fee.
Service fees are junk fees might as well count them as a tip.
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