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Old 03-30-2015, 10:35 AM
 
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A lot of that is because of Atlanta in Georgia's case. How do the other cities in Georgia compare without Atlanta? Are they ahead of South Carolina cities? From what I see, no.
Well I agreed with that but was making the point from a statewide perspective and also arguing that NC has done a better job in enacting policies that have more of a statewide impact.
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Old 03-30-2015, 10:43 AM
 
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Well I agreed with that but was making the point from a statewide perspective and also arguing that NC has done a better job in enacting policies that have more of a statewide impact.
Okay. That could be true. I was just saying having a big city like Atlanta or Charlotte makes a difference. We don't have one big city here, we have 3 smaller ones.

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Old 03-30-2015, 11:03 AM
 
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South Carolina is doing pretty well to not have 1 mega city, county over 500,000, or metro over 1 million. It's kind of crazy that SC is about to pass 5 million residents.

While we're not on NC and GA's level, we're starting to outpace similar states our size. While tourism, tech, and medical are increasing, we should invest more in research, banking, and those other white collar jobs as well. We only have 1 Fortune 500 Company. While we may not be able to persuade the other 499 to come HQ here, we could still increase presence in the state. Let's get some real international flights out of these airports, lets improve education to keep away brain drain and attract and keep highly skilled workers, let's not only try to bring in the manufacturers, we can do more than build things.

I don't want SC to become a bedroom state, I want us to be an East Coast power. While the future does look bright for SC (except our domestic violence rate, which doesn't seem to be improving), we could still do better. I don't want people and companies to see us as a rural, low density, agricultural state anymore. We're a fastly urbanizing, rapidly growing, multi-economic state, and while we may not have one large city, we have 3 prospering mid-sized cities that are capable and willing, and the best coastline this side of Florida.
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Old 03-30-2015, 11:04 AM
 
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Okay. That could be true. I was just saying having a big city like Atlanta or Charlotte makes a difference. We don't have one big city here, we have a 3 smaller ones.
It's not just a big city dominating. In the case of NC, Raleigh and Charlotte are larger but they are also growing rapidly. There are a lot of big cities that are not growing or even regressing. The bigger problem that SC has to address is that while retiree population growth is good is not what you want to build around. Large manufacturing is great for the unemployment rate but wage growth becomes harder. SC concentrates a lot of resources on getting the next BMW but that is not the best strategy. NC does not focus enough on large manufacturing and it should but, the growth in other areas as a result of being aggressive with education and making the state attractive for all demographics is paying off. Imagine how much faster Charlotte would grow with a large manufacturing operation.

MetLife just relocated 1,500 jobs to Charlotte and about the same to Raleigh. The average income was north of 75k. The job types include a lot of different job function from finance to service. This is exactly what SC need to target outside of the Charlotte counties. But, to date, the infrastructure is not in place for places like Greenville to be attractive for these relocations. Why....because the state plays politics with funding higher education and allows schools too much disparity in funding.
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Old 03-30-2015, 02:08 PM
 
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South Carolina is doing pretty well to not have 1 mega city, county over 500,000, or metro over 1 million. It's kind of crazy that SC is about to pass 5 million residents.

While we're not on NC and GA's level, we're starting to outpace similar states our size. While tourism, tech, and medical are increasing, we should invest more in research, banking, and those other white collar jobs as well. We only have 1 Fortune 500 Company. While we may not be able to persuade the other 499 to come HQ here, we could still increase presence in the state. Let's get some real international flights out of these airports, lets improve education to keep away brain drain and attract and keep highly skilled workers, let's not only try to bring in the manufacturers, we can do more than build things.

I don't want SC to become a bedroom state, I want us to be an East Coast power. While the future does look bright for SC (except our domestic violence rate, which doesn't seem to be improving), we could still do better. I don't want people and companies to see us as a rural, low density, agricultural state anymore. We're a fastly urbanizing, rapidly growing, multi-economic state, and while we may not have one large city, we have 3 prospering mid-sized cities that are capable and willing, and the best coastline this side of Florida.
I can agree with all of this; well-written post.
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Old 03-30-2015, 06:29 PM
 
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South Carolina is doing pretty well to not have 1 mega city, county over 500,000, or metro over 1 million. It's kind of crazy that SC is about to pass 5 million residents.

While we're not on NC and GA's level, we're starting to outpace similar states our size. While tourism, tech, and medical are increasing, we should invest more in research, banking, and those other white collar jobs as well. We only have 1 Fortune 500 Company. While we may not be able to persuade the other 499 to come HQ here, we could still increase presence in the state. Let's get some real international flights out of these airports, lets improve education to keep away brain drain and attract and keep highly skilled workers, let's not only try to bring in the manufacturers, we can do more than build things.

I don't want SC to become a bedroom state, I want us to be an East Coast power. While the future does look bright for SC (except our domestic violence rate, which doesn't seem to be improving), we could still do better. I don't want people and companies to see us as a rural, low density, agricultural state anymore. We're a fastly urbanizing, rapidly growing, multi-economic state, and while we may not have one large city, we have 3 prospering mid-sized cities that are capable and willing, and the best coastline this side of Florida.
Many Wall Street firms are locating the non client facing operations out of NYC, Columbia, Charleston and York County would be great sites for one of these operations.

As for international flights, that will not happen with CLT so close. And, even Charlotte's international offerings is not too great.
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Old 03-30-2015, 08:36 PM
 
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Charleston can handle it and will handle it eventually. Both CHS and MYR fly to Canada. Its for vacationers, but its a start. Time to start making business connections with Europe and Latin America.
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Old 04-01-2015, 05:45 PM
 
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True. Augusta, Savannah, Columbus, and Macon have nothing on Columbia, Charleston, Greenville, and Myrtle Beach.
If you mean collectively, yes. But Augusta (pop. 583,000) has much more going for it than Myrtle Beach (pop. 417,000). Even Savannah (slightly smaller than MB, at 372,000) is more of a city and less of a stretch of tacky, overdeveloped resort towns. So just "collectively."

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Old 04-01-2015, 06:21 PM
 
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It didn't compare which city with which. Population doesn't mean everything.

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Old 04-01-2015, 08:37 PM
 
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Charleston can handle it and will handle it eventually. Both CHS and MYR fly to Canada. Its for vacationers, but its a start. Time to start making business connections with Europe and Latin America.
European flights from Charleston are at best decades away. Charlotte is just now getting a full slate of Euro flights.
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