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Old 03-27-2015, 08:25 PM
 
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It seems like South Carolina is starting to attract more transplants as times goes by. Mainly around Charleston, but also Columbia, Greenville/Spartanburg, the Charlotte suburbs, and tons of retirees around Hilton Head and the Grand Strand. So, the question is, what do you see in the future for South Carolina? Do you believe it'll become less "Old South" and more like neighboring Georgia and North Carolina? More specifically, how about the major metros? Any opinions on what the future holds for the Palmetto State?
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Old 03-27-2015, 08:47 PM
 
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It seems like South Carolina is starting to attract more transplants as times goes by. Mainly around Charleston, but also Columbia, Greenville/Spartanburg, the Charlotte suburbs, and tons of retirees around Hilton Head and the Grand Strand. So, the question is, what do you see in the future for South Carolina? Do you believe it'll become less "Old South" and more like neighboring Georgia and North Carolina? More specifically, how about the major metros? Any opinions on what the future holds for the Palmetto State?
The transplants moving to SC are very different from NC, GA, and VA. Much whiter for one thing - IIRC South Carolina is the only southern state which got whiter from 2000 to 2010. And while the transplants tend to be less overwhelmingly Republican than white South Carolinians, they are more right leaning than the median SC voter, which means the state is actually drifting a bit further to the right still.

Also, one should keep in mind that a lot of SC transplants from the Northeast and Midwest are retirees, meaning they aren't going to have as much of a lasting effect on the local culture.
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Old 03-27-2015, 09:22 PM
 
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My family is 'old' South Carolinians and every time I go back I am saddened by the Florida style strip malling of the state. The Charleston/Mt. Pleasant area is especially upsetting. Trashy retail seems to be more important than the rich history and maintaining that.
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Old 03-28-2015, 06:25 AM
 
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The transplants moving to SC are very different from NC, GA, and VA. Much whiter for one thing - IIRC South Carolina is the only southern state which got whiter from 2000 to 2010. And while the transplants tend to be less overwhelmingly Republican than white South Carolinians, they are more right leaning than the median SC voter, which means the state is actually drifting a bit further to the right still.

Also, one should keep in mind that a lot of SC transplants from the Northeast and Midwest are retirees, meaning they aren't going to have as much of a lasting effect on the local culture.
I disagree with your assessment. The transplant similarities in SC are quite in step with what's happening in NC, GA and VA as the state is being "discovered" by those comparison shopping neighboring states. SC still is a value comparably speaking with the Greenville/Spartanburg, Rock Hill (south side of Charlotte), Charleston and Columbia metros attracting a good deal of corporate relocations from the Northeast and Midwest who by nature are more moderate and less conservative politically than SC natives. Furthermore SC is getting younger, and wealthier via an influx of working residents...not retirees.

Cities on the Rise in South Carolina - NerdWallet
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Old 03-28-2015, 07:17 AM
 
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The transplants moving to SC are very different from NC, GA, and VA. Much whiter for one thing - IIRC South Carolina is the only southern state which got whiter from 2000 to 2010. And while the transplants tend to be less overwhelmingly Republican than white South Carolinians, they are more right leaning than the median SC voter, which means the state is actually drifting a bit further to the right still.

Also, one should keep in mind that a lot of SC transplants from the Northeast and Midwest are retirees, meaning they aren't going to have as much of a lasting effect on the local culture.
As a person that is local to SC(Greenville area) and who deals with transplants hands on in his business, I disagree some. While there are more whites transplanting in they aren't all white. Some are black as myself.And most of them are more middle leaning as myself in my experience. They've all been younger and working. Whites outnumber blacks in this country, so you're going to have more whites transplanting.
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Old 03-28-2015, 08:25 AM
 
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It seems like South Carolina is starting to attract more transplants as times goes by. Mainly around Charleston, but also Columbia, Greenville/Spartanburg, the Charlotte suburbs, and tons of retirees around Hilton Head and the Grand Strand. So, the question is, what do you see in the future for South Carolina? Do you believe it'll become less "Old South" and more like neighboring Georgia and North Carolina? More specifically, how about the major metros? Any opinions on what the future holds for the Palmetto State?
Most of Georgia and North Carolina is not anymore "less south" than SC. The Idea that those two states are less south is ridiculous. SC communities of Myrtle Beach, Charleston, and Hilton Head. Are three of the fastest growing on the entire east coast, and I don't see any slow down.
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Old 03-28-2015, 08:36 AM
 
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Transplants from the north and elsewhere have been moving to SC since after the 1940s or so, yet it is still considered "Old South"? It has become more conservative/Republican over those decades. SC nearly voted 100 percent for FDR. It was a solid Democratic state until Nixon won it. As SC became more affluent and educated, it became a Republican state.

To me, the express ion "Old South" is basically implying it is a still racist south and based on the premise that transplants only recently started moving here.

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Old 03-28-2015, 08:59 AM
 
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Ok, well for some reason the previous poster deleted his long somewhat contentious post in response to mine. Here is my response to his deleted post:

Given industry started up north, it makes sense that most of the HQs are up there. Most of the jobs at a large company are not at the HQs though.

Why do so many people move down to the South Carolina if the pay is horrible and nothing but menial jobs? I don't think Columbia and Greenville's growth is based on retirees. Hilton Head obviously is and Mrtyle Beach. Charleston has a mix

I believe the premise was put forth that the state has become more progressive because of northern transplants who are less conservative. I pointed out the fact that SC has had transplants from the north for decades and it actually became more Republiccan while becoming more affluent and educated.

The observations below are all facts:
Transplants from the north and elsewhere have been coming to SC since FDR.
SC became less racist over the decades.
SC became increasingly affluent over the decades.
SC became increasingly educated over the decades.
SC switched from being a nearly 100 percent voting population for FDR to being a majority Republican state today.

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Old 03-28-2015, 09:48 AM
 
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The transplants moving to SC are very different from NC, GA, and VA. Much whiter for one thing - IIRC South Carolina is the only southern state which got whiter from 2000 to 2010. And while the transplants tend to be less overwhelmingly Republican than white South Carolinians, they are more right leaning than the median SC voter, which means the state is actually drifting a bit further to the right still.

Also, one should keep in mind that a lot of SC transplants from the Northeast and Midwest are retirees, meaning they aren't going to have as much of a lasting effect on the local culture.
Wholeheartedly agree.
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Old 03-28-2015, 09:54 AM
 
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I disagree with your assessment. The transplant similarities in SC are quite in step with what's happening in NC, GA and VA as the state is being "discovered" by those comparison shopping neighboring states. SC still is a value comparably speaking with the Greenville/Spartanburg, Rock Hill (south side of Charlotte), Charleston and Columbia metros attracting a good deal of corporate relocations from the Northeast and Midwest who by nature are more moderate and less conservative politically than SC natives. Furthermore SC is getting younger, and wealthier via an influx of working residents...not retirees.

Cities on the Rise in South Carolina - NerdWallet
Most of the actual corporate relocations SC is getting aren't from the Northeast and Midwest; they are from NC, as companies cross the border from Charlotte to York and Lancaster counties to still have access to the skilled, educated workforce in Charlotte yet take advantage of the generous incentives and tax breaks provided by SC. Otherwise, SC is mainly getting big manufacturing plants where the bulk of the jobs don't require a whole lot of education or skill.
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