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I can’t believe y’all are following this guy up again with his bait.
Y’all are debating with the guy that has said Greenville is on par with New York and better.
Believes that per capita stats are not a good way showing the amount of crime in the likelihood of it happening to you.
And tells everyone they should move to Grenville because it has an ever improving Main Street, a small waterfall park in downtown and has mountains in a short drive.
Has said Greenville is on par, more to do, or better than Charlotte and Atlanta.
And now is debating what a flagship university means to most people (which is usually the namesake university of the state).
Yeah, I had to find out for myself.
ClemVegas, you should make a thread debating that the earth is flat.
You could make a post asserting SC is the flagship even though it has no control over the non UofSC publics in the state and it is no more prominent than Clemson.
As everyone else has correctly pointed out, the "Flagship" university of a state is generally accepted to be the oldest and the "University of XXXX". It isn't the slight against clemson that you seem to believe it to be. Much like most folks would say that although University of Georgia is the flagship public university in GA, that doesn't mean that Georgia Institute of Technology is not an exceptional school in its own right.
To correct your mistakes above: UofSC never had an ag college. UofSC might have had an ag department established, if not for the opposition of Governor Benjamin Tillman, the true founding father of Clemson. Tillman opposed using land-grant funds under the Morrill Act to create an agricultural department at UofSC, instead favoring the establishment of a separate land-grant college focusing on agricultural education and the practical sciences.
Likely due to Tillman's outspoken advocacy for Agricultural education, Thomas Green Clemson shared with Tillman his plans for willing his estate to the state of South Carolina for the purpose of establishing an agricultural college. After Clemson’s death, Tillman helped lead the political fight to have the state accept Clemson’s bequest, and he was appointed by Clemson as one of the original seven successor trustees of Clemson Agricultural College.
Tillman wanted the ag college moved to another college because he thought UofSC used the Morrill money for the liberal arts programs. He wanted an agricultural university modeled after Michigan State.
The UofSC website indicates the university re-opened as a agricultural college after the end of Reconstruction. https://www.sc.edu/about/our_history/
Tillman was born in 1847.
Thomas Clemson was involved in getting the Morrill land grant act passed when he worked in Washington DC. He helped set up the University of Maryland, a land grant university.
Thomas Clemson is on record advocating for a public university in SC to provide practical education in agriculture and the sciences in the 1860s soon after the Civil War ended. Tillman was not even 20 years old at this time.
Clemson might not have been created without Tillman's help but it is hard to believe Thomas Clemson would have a difficult time persuading a different governor to get on board in a big agricultural state like SC back then. I don't think UofSC loses the ag college if Thomas Clemson had not moved to the state. Being John Calhoun's son in law didn't hurt.
No, it has a general performing arts degree, with concentrations. No major. They’re two different things, majors and concentrations. For example. I could have a degree in Secondary Education with a concentration on History. Which USC has.
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