Wwe (baseball, wrestling, pro, UFC)

[danielsard]

do you consider this a show or a sport and why?

I think is a show. I believe that there is no real sport if you can beat the -**- out of a ref for example or beat with a chair another guy

is my opinion i still like to sit and watch it every once in a while

[JJG]

Originally Posted by danielsard

do you consider this a show or a sport and why?

I think is a show. I believe that there is no real sport if you can beat the -**- out of a ref for example or beat with a chair another guy

is my opinion i still like to sit and watch it every once in a while

No. It's "sports entertainment".
Which is sad, becaue the WWEak doesn't really try anymore. I watch every now and then, too. But it just isn't as unpredictable and exciting as the WWF was. I miss the Attitude era (1996-2002 or '03?) with Stone Cold, The Rock, the 5 membered DX, and The Corperation.

[desert sun]

Its a joke,not worth watching.

[jfre81]

The Vince I credit most with the decline of quality in pro (TV) wrestling is Russo. He turned everything into predictable, insipid crap IMHO. McMahon and Bischoff had their hand in part by allowing Russo to run things; then McMahon let guys like HBK and HHH (plus his daughter) run what is now WWE into the ground while Bischoff eventually just let the NWO guys be bookers.

Paul Heyman also (however unintentionally) destroyed pro wrestling as it was. It wasn't so much his doing as McMahon and Bischoff's insistence on imitating ECW, doing more "hardcore" stuff and having a lot of "tweener" guys who weren't really heel or face. ECW was great as a niche alternative thing back in the day but I guess its success in the demographic that WWF/WCW started targeting in the 90s (moving it away from the more "kiddie/family" stuff, Hulkamania and whatnot) is why they started imitating it. However, even the old guys like Terry Funk and Dirty Dick Slater were doing barbed-wire baseball matches and other "hardcore" stuff in Japan before it was cool in the States, back when the Hulkster was still telling us to eat our vitamins and say our prayers.

I freely admit to watching wrestling rather religiously until roughly sometime in 1998, sometime around the *Gang Warz* that just bored me to no end, and then I started working every Monday night and never catching wrestling anymore. I still have a fondness for the oldschool stuff.

[NewToCA]

Originally Posted by danielsard

do you consider this a show or a sport and why?

I think is a show. I believe that there is no real sport if you can beat the -**- out of a ref for example or beat with a chair another guy

is my opinion i still like to sit and watch it every once in a while

Definitely a show, though I enjoy watching some of the athleticism. TNA Wrestling has some guys like Chris Sabin, Jay Lethal and AJ Styles who are pretty entertaining to watch, and fairly realistic.

I used to watch wresting on Saturday afternoons when I was growing up in the early to mid 1960's. Back then the show was only an hour long, and the three or four matches were very one sided, to draw interest for the live show coming to Philly at the end of each month. My dad took me to the old Philadelphia Convention Center for one of the live matches, and I still remember it to this day, the feature match being a tag team bout between Gorilla Monsoon and Killer Kowalski against Bruno Sammartino and Bobo Brazil.

Around the early 1990's I took my sons to see a live match at the Capital Center in Washington DC, featuring the British Bulldogs, Don Muraco, Tony Atlas and Cowboy Bob Orton. To this day they still say it was one of their best childhood memories.

The physical abuse and premature deaths certainly cast a shadow over the "sport", and I can't stand these barbed wire and other gory matches.

[arimor]

a reaLITY SHOW!!!

its staged, sure some get hurt but this aint the UFC