Kentucky Derby - fastest horse disqualified, 2nd over the line wins (watch, time)
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I dont get why the lead horse has to watch out for those horses behind him,wouldnt it be incumbent on trailing horses to make their own paths in nthe race and not trip over the lead horse? looking at film footage i noticed the lead jockey never looked back once to assess his trailing competitors . IMO MS got ripped off.
I agree; isn't the whole point to get and stay in first place? If there isn't enough room to safely maneuver because there are too many horses in the pack, that's on the racing officials. Of course, I find the whole thing inherently dangerous by its very nature; also abusive/exploitative of the animals, but that's just me.
Again, was it the HORSE'S doing (veering to the left) or the JOCKEY'S? No one has answered that question.
There's no question that MS was the best athlete and potentially a TCW. Perhaps one of the greatest horses of all time. It's a shame, but at least no one -- including innocent animals -- was hurt or killed, amazingly.
I agree; isn't the whole point to get and stay in first place? If there isn't enough room to safely maneuver because there are too many horses in the pack, that's on the racing officials. Of course, I find the whole thing inherently dangerous by its very nature; also abusive/exploitative of the animals, but that's just me.
Again, was it the HORSE'S doing (veering to the left) or the JOCKEY'S? No one has answered that question.
There's no question that MS was the best athlete and potentially a TCW. Perhaps one of the greatest horses of all time. It's a shame, but at least no one -- including innocent animals -- was hurt or killed, amazingly.
Been answered multiple times - the horse was spooked by the crowd noise.
Unfortunate but the stewards did the right thing.
Maximium Security does not deserve the title of "one of the greatest horses of all time" His 103 Beyer for the race was just average for this caliber of racing...
He'll get plenty of chances to start a new streak. Then we will see how good he actually is.
Been answered multiple times - the horse was spooked by the crowd noise.
Unfortunate but the stewards did the right thing.
Maximium Security does not deserve the title of "one of the greatest horses of all time" His 103 Beyer for the race was just average for this caliber of racing...
He'll get plenty of chances to start a new streak. Then we will see how good he actually is.
103 Breyer - 2:03 - on a sloppy track ain’t bad!
I agree, it’s not yet time to declare Maximum Security better than Secretariat!
The horse behind Max had his left front leg BETWEEN Max’s rear legs for a stride or two. (I was at Saratoga 4-5 years ago for the Travers. In an earlier race, 50 yards from the finish line, two horses clipped legs. The horse behind fell, the ambulance came out, they held up a black screen, they put the horse down, and they carted him off in all of 3 minutes. I happened to be 50 feet away). Had the horse behind Max clipped legs there coulda been lotta $millions of dead horses.
I dont get why the lead horse has to watch out for those horses behind him,wouldnt it be incumbent on trailing horses to make their own paths in nthe race and not trip over the lead horse? looking at film footage i noticed the lead jockey never looked back once to assess his trailing competitors . IMO MS got ripped off.
In most jurisdictions, the horse on the lead, or any horse for that matter, can veer in or out as much as they want. I have seen a horse on the inner rail veer out to nearly the outer rail and win.(See Broad Brush win the 1986 Pennsylvania Derby on Youtube). However, they cannot impede another runner and cost that runner a better finish. If MS was a couple of lengths clear of the runners behind him and veered out, he probably would have been ok. When he veered out in the Derby, he interfered with War of Will, nearly causing WoW to go down. This is the reason for the DQ.
Was the veering out of his lane the horse's or the jockey's "fault"?
the jockey is the one that controls the horse, not the other way around.
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But a block is a block is a block. Plus they are fairly dangerous. Senior died because he put up the block coming into turn four...
and in nascar throwing a block is not illegal. and by the way, senior died when his seat belt broke and he was hit with several G's of deceleration while fairly unrestrained in the car. a wreck like that normally does not result in a drivers death, it was a fluke.
the jockey is the one that controls the horse, not the other way around.
and in nascar throwing a block is not illegal. and by the way, senior died when his seat belt broke and he was hit with several G's of deceleration while fairly unrestrained in the car. a wreck like that normally does not result in a drivers death, it was a fluke.
Not quite.
If a 1100 pound horse is going to bolt suddenly to his right, chances are great the jockey can do little about it.
I hope he doesn't get suspended. I'm putting this incident all on the horse.
A horse is not a car. The animal has a mind of its own and sometimes reacts way too quickly for a jockey to respond. I have seen horses jump the rail in the stretch. I have seen them suddenly veer so sharply the the jockey falls off. If a horse gets spooked, and it does happen, a 110 pound rider can lose control of the animal.
A horse is not a car. The animal has a mind of its own and sometimes reacts way too quickly for a jockey to respond. I have seen horses jump the rail in the stretch. I have seen them suddenly veer so sharply the the jockey falls off. If a horse gets spooked, and it does happen, a 110 pound rider can lose control of the animal.
Granted, but it's not like a mouse ran out into the middle of the track. The noise was constant, not sudden or unusual, so I can't see why that would spook an experienced horse intent on running.
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