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Would you agree that Nadal is the greatest tennis player of all time if he beats everyone most of the time from now on, including and especially Djokovic, for the next few years and while doing so, gaining a few more (at least three more) Grand Slam titles?
I think so, because tennis is a one on one sport, and if the above will be true, then Nadal would have beaten EVERYONE in his time, one on one, including the one with the most grand slams titles, Federer, while at the same time, Nadal is among the ones with the most grand slam titles.
This is with the assumption that Federer does not obtain more than two more grand slam titles, and Djokovic's total grand slam titles does not surpass Nadal's.
Would you agree that Nadal is the greatest tennis player of all time if he beats everyone most of the time from now on, including and especially Djokovic, for the next few years and while doing so, gaining a few more (at least three more) Grand Slam titles?
I think so, because tennis is a one on one sport, and if the above will be true, then Nadal would have beaten EVERYONE in his time, one on one, including the one with the most grand slams titles, Federer, while at the same time, Nadal is among the ones with the most grand slam titles.
This is with the assumption that Federer does not obtain more than two more grand slam titles, and Djokovic's total grand slam titles does not surpass Nadal's.
I agree IF he stays healthy and his numbers prove it. As of now, Federer is un-arguably the best there ever is. Most GS titles and most weeks at number 1. Nadal can definitely beat this if he stays healthy. All we can do is wait and find out.
I agree IF he stays healthy and his numbers prove it. As of now, Federer is un-arguably the best there ever is. Most GS titles and most weeks at number 1. Nadal can definitely beat this if he stays healthy. All we can do is wait and find out.
Un-arguably? He loses to Nadal on the one on one records, and it's not based on 9 matches, but 29. Nadal leads 19 to 10. How can you be the "un-arguably" the best ever if you loses to someone majority of the time on a sport that's one on one?
Un-arguably? He loses to Nadal on the one on one records, and it's not based on 9 matches, but 29. Nadal leads 19 to 10. How can you be the "un-arguably" the best ever if you loses to someone majority of the time on a sport that's one on one?
You're absolutely right. It's a one on one sport so everything is based on records, unlike team sports which is based on Championships/MVPs. However, I can safely say Federer is un-arguably the most successful tennis player of all time. As far as BEST right now, looks like Nadal...But thats cause we watch tennis, we know...
The problem is 100 years from now people are only gonna remember numbers, assuming Federer holds the record, he will be deemed the best. (As you can see, everyone in this forum is a good example) No one will look back and say, "but wait!, Nadal beat him 19 times! If Nadal was so good, why didn't he get 17 GSs as well?" People like us watch tennis so we know whats going on. When I ask people who never watch sports, all they really know is Golf: Tiger Woods, Tennis: Federer, Sampras, Basketball: Jordan.
So while 99.95% of non tennis watchers out there say Federer, we have to sit back and bust out stats and say Nadal is the better player, Federer is only more successful. Everyone will just brush us off and say whatever. Even so, I get a lot of "oh that Spanish guy right? yeah I think he's pretty good". Because sadly to the public, pro athletes are still based on championships and MVPs (In this case GS's and Number 1s). For us, we know Nadal is the better player when competing against Federer.
I'm gonna ask around (non sports watchers) this week and see more responses...
Nadal is a better player ...... now. But would Nadal beat the Federer of 2005/2006? No. That was when Federer was playing the best tennis ever played. "we know tennis" , anyone who posts here watches tennis, it's why we are here.
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