01-24-2009, 10:29 AM
Location: MO Ozarkian in NE Hoosierana
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atl_to_stl - there is a
OVER THE FENCE COFFEE CLUB Part II thread for those in the outlaying areas of Missouri, mainly the Springfield region, where members of CDF get together... just a thought, but maybe if anyone is brave enough, start a thread for the StL folks to meet and bum about, some convenient/agreeable location & time?
As to grits/breakfast, I've not had opportunity to eat there, but have heard positive of
Goody Goody Diner, St. Louis, MO . Might also try
Chris' Pancakes & Dining Breakfast Menu (http://www.bartolinosrestaurants.com/cbreakfastmenu.htm - broken link) and/or Uncle Bill's Pancake House; 3427 S Kingshighway Blvd; St Louis, MO 63139-1201; Phone: (314) 832-1973 and/or Reynolds Roadhouse Restaurant; 11488 Dorsett Road; Maryland Heights, MO 63043; (314) 291-6119
01-24-2009, 11:14 AM
Location: St Louis
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downtown unfortunately is dang-near a ghost town after 5pm
01-24-2009, 11:17 AM
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I also live downtown (in the loft district on wash. ave.)....it's not necessarily a ghost town but it's quieter than a downtown area in an urban area should be. I'm sure in the warmer months the activity will double so I'm looking forward to that.
01-24-2009, 11:18 AM
Location: St Louis
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Try Rooster, Cummels, and Crepes in the City which are all downtown. However I am not sure if they serve grits.
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01-24-2009, 12:35 PM
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Where's a fun place to watch the Super Bowl next weekend? I'm also a big College Basketball fan and I'll want to be around a tv during March Madness 24/7, any good sports bars around?
01-24-2009, 02:58 PM
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Where's a fun place to watch the Super Bowl next weekend? I'm also a big College Basketball fan and I'll want to be around a tv during March Madness 24/7, any good sports bars around?
College Hoops: Be careful of places that advertise themselves as "Sports Bars," but in actuality they aren't, because they do not buy different sports packages for college and pro sports. At best they get the NFL Sunday Ticket for pro football. Otherwise they show the basic cable televised games. "Real" Sports bars in Stl include but are not limited to:
Lester's in Ladue and another location in Town and Country. Food is overrated imo, the NYC Deli stuff is their better food. It's more of sleek modern setting. They will get all kinds of sports packages.
Ozzie's in Westport Plaza, older, dated interior, inexpensive, gets all the sports packages. Food is average bar stuff at best.
Sports Zone, on Watson in Shrewsbury, older, dated interior. Food, similar to Ozzie's not their strong suit, typical average at best bar food.
Flannery's on Washington Ave, will get the sports packages, I've never eaten the food there, but I've been told it's decent. I'm not a fan of the tv layout for games, but a solid choice.
Skybox, on the Landing, gets all the games, modern sleek in decor similar to Lester's. I've never eaten there.
These would be some I'd try depending on the part of town, especially if you are seeking non-basic cable games, or sports packages of different varieties.
You will see lots of college sports fans at these sports bars on a regular basis, and many host alumni watching events and parties of colleges all across the country for their St. Louis alumni chapters.
Super Bowl: That'll be on anywhere. So that will greatly increase your opportunity for watching the game almost anywhere.
01-24-2009, 03:07 PM
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Sounds good, different strokes for different folks I guess. Atlanta is definitely more suburban and I've been accustomed to seeing everything "bright, shiny, and new". :-) Also understand my perspective as a young black female may be a little different than yours. I'm coming from an area with a highly educated black middle class and I'm so sad to see the lack of progress in St. Louis within the black community. St. Louis has definitely been an eye opener but no different than any other midwestern or "rust belt" urban city I've lived in for work. As soon as I landed in St. Louis and stepped walked into the terminal, I thought, this is just like Cleveland. I spent eight months there on my last assignment....thankfully, I've found St. Louis to be MUCH better, lol. One thing's for sure, I'll take St. Louis traffic anyday over Atlanta's, goodness gracious. And that blizzard we had in Cleveland last April? NEVER again...I've had more than my share of snow. I was trying to get out of town that weekend, came down with the flu, I was hauling my luggage around by myself in waist deep snow and trying to get to the airport before they shut it down for 48 hours....tons of men everywhere and no one even offered a hand. That was the worst day of my life, lol. Made me appreciate southern hospitality even more.
You simply won't find many other metro areas like Atlanta in terms of being a destination of sorts for young urban and suburban black professionals. And, you will not find St. Louis to be that place. However, if you make an effort and get out to see and do the things that make St. Louis unique to itself, you will do well.
Clayton MO, would be the clean, sort of shiny new, similar in distance as say Midtown Atlanta from downtown. It's very near the U.City Loop. Outside of your district, based on your posts, that is an area I'd recommend, as well as the Central West End, which has been previously mentioned, as areas that seem to fit your background and interests, outside of your area of living in the Loft district.
St. Louis and Atlanta are both suburban sprawl metros, Atlanta's being much more so, and almost double the population size of St. Louis as a metro when you consider all of those far out burbs of Atl. There are many urban and suburban places and people and things that would be up your alley in St. Louis. It just isn't all connected and the areas themselves will be smaller than what they were in Atlanta in some cases.
Make sure to take some people's advice on seeing the area's unique to St. Louis combined with ones of what you are used to, to get a feel for multiple things.
01-24-2009, 03:36 PM
Location: SE Missouri
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I may be wrong, but surely there will be vendors or places serving wine during Mardi Gras? Just moved back from the SF Bay area, and I forget that it may not be served everywhere like out West. Not that one needs to drink to enjoy the MG parades or festivities...but it does kinda go hand in hand, ha ha.
01-24-2009, 04:09 PM
Location: Southeast Missouri
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Here's the Mardi Gras website:
Mardi Gras, Inc. - 2009 St. Louis Mardi Gras
Mardi Gras, Inc. - 2009 St. Louis Mardi Gras: Do's & Don'ts (http://www.mardigrasinc.com/Dos-and-Donts.aspx - broken link)
01-24-2009, 09:59 PM
Location: St Louis County, MO
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Isn't the Mardi Gras in St Louis the second largest next to N'awlins?
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Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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