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Old 04-30-2018, 10:47 AM
 
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RE above. Dr. Ornish, a renowned cardiologist, has had reversal of heart disease and hypertension through utilizing a vegan, low-fat diet. His results speak volumes. A number of his patients have avoided heart surgery altogether.

Others have avoided more heart surgery when their previous heart surgery by previous doctors failed to give them lasting results...

Problem is, many of us will not go on his program and follow a low-fat, vegan diet. We find it too restrictive.

Me, I would do anything within my power to avoid heart surgery....


I just read the post you responded too. It doesn't say anything about Ornish - it talks about the studies showing correlation between mental health issues and vegetarianism/veganism. I love how you just silly dismiss it as "meat-industry" funded (the studies aren't - read the funding sources ) or "manipulated data". Because only the studies that agree with your worldview are genuine right! There can't be any negative consequences right! Lol All those potato council and lettuce society -funded studies you are quoting! Gotta be suspicious


I'd post a link to confirmation bias - but you'd dismiss that too!
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Old 04-30-2018, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic east coast
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Can you think of a better way of dying than a heart attack out of the blue when you're 85?
I can't. Pretty much every other way of dying is worse. (and "dying in your sleep" = heart failure while asleep).
Sure, if that's the way it plays out. One heart attack at 85, in your sleep, would be a "good" death.

Or, it could be like a friend of ours who had multiple procedures such as stents & bypasses and more who never changed his lifestyle re diet or exercise (even though his Doc advised and encouraged him to), had multiple heart attacks, and also developed diabetes and then died of his final heart attack at 62...never got to meet his grand-daughter a little bit down the road.

Lots of suffering...not a "good" death. Hard to figure...some kind of death wish?
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