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Old 02-02-2013, 09:30 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, LA
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Funny that the Wall Street journal (Fox News) would skew their findings to favor states that privatize public schools and try to lower wages for teachers/workers.

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Old 02-03-2013, 06:12 AM
 
Location: Hernando County, FL
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If by old stereotypes you mean a couple years ago.. Education Rank - Data Across States - KIDS COUNT Data Center
Maybe you can help me out. I was trying to find the methodology for this report and came up with this.

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Education Ranks for 2012 for each state using a consistent set of economic indicators; namely those used to derive the rank reported in the 2012 KIDS COUNT Data Book. The Education Rank for each state was obtained in the following manner. First, we converted the2010 (or 2008/2009, depending on the indicator) state numerical values for each of the 4 key indicators within each domain into standard scores. We summed those standard scores in each domain to get a total standard score for each state. Finally, we ranked the states on the basis of their total standard score by domain in sequential order from highest/best (1) to lowest/worst (50). Standard scores were derived by subtracting the mean score from the observed score and dividing the amount by the standard deviation for that distribution of scores. All measures were given the same weight in calculating the domain standard score.
It looks like the ranking is based solely on economic indicators. I never understood why there was so much emphasis on school ranking was based on how much a teacher is paid. Florida teachers making $45,000 as opposed to New Jersey teachers making $63,000 makes the schools better? The cost of living in New Jersey is significantly higher than Florida which would even things out between salaries but New Jersey would get a higher ranking just based on that.

Some rankings only use the one economic indicator but it seems this ranking uses 4 and doesn't let you know what they are. Doesn't seem like a good way to rank schools.
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Old 02-03-2013, 06:59 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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HaHa I lauphed when i saw Texas ranked as one.
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Old 02-03-2013, 07:05 AM
 
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I thought this might be a serious posting until I saw West Virginia, Kentucky, Georgia, and Arkansas also listed.. LoL
This!
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Old 02-03-2013, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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Well Massachusetts is ranked as #2 and I happen to agree the schools up here can be pretty amazing..there are the 'bad' schools up here as well though...my daughter learned how to read books in kindergarten, she is in 1st grade and reads chapter books!! Idk but that seems really good to me. I don't rem. what grade I learned to read in but I also went to very low ranked schools, I grew up in very poor neighborhood so the schools mirrored that as well...I want better for my kids so I put them in the best ranked public school in the city..I can't afford private school so this was my only way to ensure they did well. Now my son is only in preschool so if/when we move to Florida he will be starting kindergarten there, I really hope they are comparable to what we have here.
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Old 02-03-2013, 04:03 PM
 
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Funny that the Wall Street journal (Fox News) would skew their findings to favor states that privatize public schools and try to lower wages for teachers/workers.
This is not the wall street journal you are thinking.

Sorry, to dampen the excitement but this ranking based on solely two criteria (graduate rate and expenditure) is nonsense. It doesn't even look at the actual achievement of the students. Don't get carried away people.
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Old 02-03-2013, 05:54 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, LA
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This is not the wall street journal you are thinking.

Sorry, to dampen the excitement but this ranking based on solely two criteria (graduate rate and expenditure) is nonsense. It doesn't even look at the actual achievement of the students. Don't get carried away people.
Good catch, MIDF.
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Old 02-04-2013, 03:51 AM
 
Location: Hernando County, FL
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This is not the wall street journal you are thinking.

Sorry, to dampen the excitement but this ranking based on solely two criteria (graduate rate and expenditure) is nonsense. It doesn't even look at the actual achievement of the students. Don't get carried away people.
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Good catch, MIDF.
Actually it is a reprint of the Education Week, Quality Counts ranking which uses these criteria, K-12 achievement; standards, assessment and accountability; the teaching profession; school finance; students’ chances for long-term success; and transitions and alignment.
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Old 02-04-2013, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Moving from MD (always #1 or #2 in the nation for public schools) one of my biggest concerns was schools for our kids. I remember when I lived down here before, FL was toward the bottom. We researched their school system before deciding on an area to live and we are quite happy with it. It's good to know that FL is improving one of the most important areas - educating our children. Thanks for the link.
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