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Old 09-08-2011, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Midwestern Dystopia
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Retired teachers return to classroom - JSOnline

Teacher retirements may have doubled statewide in this year of Wisconsin budget wars, but some school districts are lessening the drain on classroom experience by bringing back teachers who left the classroom at the beginning of the summer. Peter Hirt, superintendent of the North Lake School District, said his district has hired two teachers who announced their retirement in March.


Though the two are being paid at about the rate they would have been paid had they stayed on, Hirt said, the district is still saving money on their compensation - and would be even if the alternative was to hire replacements right out of college - because the district doesn't have to pay for their health insurance or contribute any more to their retirement fund.


At least three other Milwaukee-area districts - New Berlin, Wauwatosa and Greenfield - hired back retired staff this year at even greater saving, because the teachers are now being paid at lower rates than they were before.

The hired-back teachers in North Lake are second-grade teacher Karen Niehausen and Spanish teacher Camille Faherty. Hirt said the two came to him in March and volunteered to retire to protect younger teachers from being laid off.

But after school officials crunched the budget numbers this summer and saw how much they'd save from the provisions in the Walker legislation, they realized they could afford to again fill the four positions that had been trimmed. They called back the two laid-off teachers and then chose the two retired teachers from lists of multiple applicants for the other two jobs.

"It's good for students when you can keep an effective, veteran teacher in the classroom, and it is good for the district when that teacher is doing the same job for a lower salary," he said. "I don't see how anyone loses."

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Wow, he doesn't see how anyone loses! how about the Wisconsin education major that just spent $64,000 on a degree and can't find a job? why don't they just pay these retired teachers in a bag of peanuts at the end of each day and save the district even more money?

and are these teachers not "double dipping", getting retirement pay and getting paid to continue working?

are these teachers essentially scabs, the irony of volunteering to retire so that younger teachers wouldn't be laid off and then going back to teach and taking jobs away from others is terrible.

of course, precisely because teachers in Wisconsin often retire in their mid to late 50's b/c of the generous retirement package afforded them is a direct reason why they probably feel o.k. about coming back and teaching, in some cases for less money, if they had to work till 65 like most people they most likely wouldn't be so keen to keep working. But when you're 57? easier decision.

(and please don't tell me they don't retire this early or it's the exception b/c I personally know 6 teachers that have done this)
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Old 09-09-2011, 01:01 AM
 
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A-men. Hiring a retired, dead weight battle ax, instead of a young fresh University graduate.

Mesa scrambles to add teachers as enrollment exceeds projections

look how hideous this 61 yo Mormon lady is. How could someone keep a straight face and say this is better. How many Arizona State education grads would be better? All?
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Old 09-09-2011, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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A-men. Hiring a retired, dead weight battle ax, instead of a young fresh University graduate.

Mesa scrambles to add teachers as enrollment exceeds projections

look how hideous this 61 yo Mormon lady is. How could someone keep a straight face and say this is better. How many Arizona State education grads would be better? All?
Do you know her? The article never mentioned her religion. How do you know she is?
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Old 09-09-2011, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Suburbia
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Wait a minute. Let me get this straight. From the first two posts in this thread, I am being told that 57 is "too young to retire", but at 61 a teacher is a "hideous, dead weight battle ax". Which is it people?
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Old 09-09-2011, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Midwestern Dystopia
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does anyone want to comment on the point of the OP?
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Old 09-09-2011, 12:21 PM
 
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Do you know her? The article never mentioned her religion. How do you know she is?

It's in the corrupt Mesa school system, which is controlled by LDS. No need to deny it.
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Old 09-09-2011, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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It's in the corrupt Mesa school system, which is controlled by LDS. No need to deny it.
So there are no non-LDS teachers in Mesa, Arizona? (I wasn't "denying" anything. I was merely asking a question.)
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