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Old 04-08-2013, 07:14 PM
 
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I like them. I don't know about the english core, but the math core is really focused on the CTM and is left vague to encourage teachers to use more hands on teaching methods.
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Old 04-09-2013, 04:27 AM
 
Location: Volunteer State
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I've had to teach a class on Science CC to other teachers and what they mean. I guided the discussion and Q&A session for a couple of hours before we all came to a general concensus. We are already teaching it.

I put a powerpoint up on the board, showing a one page excerpt from the Physics CC standards. This page had columns, tables, multi-colored text and probably 300-500 words - a good number of which were those $2 words I like to label "edu-speak." If you haven't seen one, ask our good friend Google to provide you with a sample. Out of all of this mess that we read, it was determiend that it says "teach Newtonian Mechanics." Which of course we were already doing.

I gotta tell ya, I will go through the dog-and-pony show that our administrators want from us - or I should say what they need to see us doing for evaluations. I will:
  1. nod my head and thank them when they hand me the CC science standards for my classes.
  2. set them upon the alter of the education gods and sacrifice a goat for them in a marvelous show for the state/feds.
  3. climb the mountain and sing their praises to one and all
then I will go back to my classroom and teach my kids chemistry and physics.
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Old 04-09-2013, 05:02 AM
 
Location: Paradise
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I've had to teach a class on Science CC to other teachers and what they mean. I guided the discussion and Q&A session for a couple of hours before we all came to a general concensus. We are already teaching it.

I put a powerpoint up on the board, showing a one page excerpt from the Physics CC standards. This page had columns, tables, multi-colored text and probably 300-500 words - a good number of which were those $2 words I like to label "edu-speak." If you haven't seen one, ask our good friend Google to provide you with a sample. Out of all of this mess that we read, it was determiend that it says "teach Newtonian Mechanics." Which of course we were already doing.

I gotta tell ya, I will go through the dog-and-pony show that our administrators want from us - or I should say what they need to see us doing for evaluations. I will:
  1. nod my head and thank them when they hand me the CC science standards for my classes.
  2. set them upon the alter of the education gods and sacrifice a goat for them in a marvelous show for the state/feds.
  3. climb the mountain and sing their praises to one and all
then I will go back to my classroom and teach my kids chemistry and physics.
CD won't let me rep you anymore, but:

Amen, brother.
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Old 04-09-2013, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I've had to teach a class on Science CC to other teachers and what they mean. I guided the discussion and Q&A session for a couple of hours before we all came to a general concensus. We are already teaching it.

I put a powerpoint up on the board, showing a one page excerpt from the Physics CC standards. This page had columns, tables, multi-colored text and probably 300-500 words - a good number of which were those $2 words I like to label "edu-speak." If you haven't seen one, ask our good friend Google to provide you with a sample. Out of all of this mess that we read, it was determiend that it says "teach Newtonian Mechanics." Which of course we were already doing.

I gotta tell ya, I will go through the dog-and-pony show that our administrators want from us - or I should say what they need to see us doing for evaluations. I will:
  1. nod my head and thank them when they hand me the CC science standards for my classes.
  2. set them upon the alter of the education gods and sacrifice a goat for them in a marvelous show for the state/feds.
  3. climb the mountain and sing their praises to one and all
then I will go back to my classroom and teach my kids chemistry and physics.
My motto is that I strive to teach the kids Math "in spite of the system"
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Old 04-09-2013, 05:25 PM
 
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I wasn't aware the science had agreed upon Common Core standards up to this point.

Anyways I guess there is a movement afoot by some state legislatures already to dump Common Core. I think about six states have gone down that path to this point, including Indiana.
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Old 04-09-2013, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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I've had to teach a class on Science CC to other teachers and what they mean. I guided the discussion and Q&A session for a couple of hours before we all came to a general concensus. We are already teaching it.

I put a powerpoint up on the board, showing a one page excerpt from the Physics CC standards. This page had columns, tables, multi-colored text and probably 300-500 words - a good number of which were those $2 words I like to label "edu-speak." If you haven't seen one, ask our good friend Google to provide you with a sample. Out of all of this mess that we read, it was determiend that it says "teach Newtonian Mechanics." Which of course we were already doing.


I gotta tell ya, I will go through the dog-and-pony show that our administrators want from us - or I should say what they need to see us doing for evaluations. I will:
  1. nod my head and thank them when they hand me the CC science standards for my classes.
  2. set them upon the alter of the education gods and sacrifice a goat for them in a marvelous show for the state/feds.
  3. climb the mountain and sing their praises to one and all
then I will go back to my classroom and teach my kids chemistry and physics.
Do you have a link to the science standards? I'd love to see them but I'm only seeing the math and english standards online. I really want to see what they've kept and cut. Whether we're really raising the bar or lowering it so more kids can pass science.

If I were tenured, I'd join you. Without protection, I just have to do as I'm told. ... or, at least, make it look like I'm doing what I'm told...
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Old 04-09-2013, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Volunteer State
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I wasn't aware the science had agreed upon Common Core standards up to this point.

Anyways I guess there is a movement by some state legislatures already to dump Common Core. I think about six states have gone down that path to this point, including Indiana.
Some of the preliminary examples were out that we were supposed to discuss and give feedback on. This was last summer when they were heavily discussing our state adopting it. I will be going back this summer to take more classes on the updated common core standards, which I will then teach to my science faculty. I'll get 18 hours in-service credit for this. I swear I think I'd rather be waterboarded.
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Old 04-09-2013, 06:44 PM
 
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I think it's safe to assume that there will be less than stellar buy-in of the science Common Core standards.
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Old 04-09-2013, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Volunteer State
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Do you have a link to the science standards? I'd love to see them but seeing the math and english standards online. I really want to see what they've kept and cut. Whether we're really raising the bar or lowering it so more kids can pass science.

If I were tenured, I'd join you. Without protection, I just have to do as I'm told. ... or, at least, make it look like I'm doing what I'm told...
I'll get back to you on those links in a day or to, I hope. They are buried deep inside of my saved emails. I honestly haven't looked at them since last summer because I frankly don't want to. I'm already doing pretty much everything they asked me to anyway. Well, for the most part.

As for looking like we're doing what we're told, I know exactly what you mean. We play our dog and pony show every few weeks for the administration. Now that doesn't mean that what we do during our normal classes is much different than what we do during our evaluation. But in order to score high on the rubric, we must jump through a few hoops that most of us find silly and obviously designed by someone who hasn't stepped foot in a K-12 classroom in years, if ever.
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Old 04-09-2013, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Space Coast
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I wasn't aware the science had agreed upon Common Core standards up to this point.
Yes, but they are called the Next Generation Science Standards. They've been working on it for quite a while, and final version just came out today. The Next Generation Science Standards | Next Generation Science Standards
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