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I don't mean an initial teaching certificate with an added endorsement in a second subject, but two actual separate certifications.
I know that most people tell me that the way that it's done is by adding endorsements to your first certificate, but I am curious: if, for whatever reason, I hold, say, a K-12 Spanish certification, but I want to have a whole separate certification in say, Early Childhood Education through the completion of another degree...is that allowed? I mean...would a teacher who holds a previous licensure be told, "Sorry, you can't hold two licenses, you can only add endorsements"? I know it sounds silly, but I truly just want to know if it's something that can be done.
My daughter was a Spanish major and had minors in special ed and elem ed. She took all the necessary tests and is able to teach Spanish K-12, special ed K-12 and el ed k-6. Not sure if that is what you wanted to know or not.
In my state, is believe that all of your teaching certifications are listed on the same license.
I am not really sure what you mean by different "licenses" rather than just different "endorsements".
I know many teachers who started out in one area and went back and added something completely different. Why would you need or want a totally different degree if you are able to do it with just taking an additional semester or two worth of classes?
My daughter was a Spanish major and had minors in special ed and elem ed. She took all the necessary tests and is able to teach Spanish K-12, special ed K-12 and el ed k-6. Not sure if that is what you wanted to know or not.
HI! Thanks for responding.
I'll try to make it short and simple:
I am close to finishing an M.Ed. with a K-12 Spanish Certificate from Montana State University. After I had decided to teach high school Spanish and started my M.Ed, I realized (while working as a long-term substitute teacher an an elementary school for two whole semesters) that I am absolutely in love with teaching K-2 children. It's an amazing thing that has made me grow, learn, and rethink my whole strategy to become a teacher. Also, for the longest time, I have wanted to teach in inner-city NY, but for financial reasons I have stayed in CT until I finish my graduate degree. Now, everyone tells me, "no big whoop. Just get your license in Spanish from MSU, move to NYC, and then add an Early Childhood Education to your original license.
Thing is that since New York State doesn't have a K-12 Spanish credential, the process to change/transfer my Montana K-12 Spanish licensure to one of NY's grades-9 to 12 certificates could be more difficult and take more time than if I just got an initial NY license after attending a NY-certified program from a NY institution. I just found a great NY program that would lead to an initial DUAL licensure in Early Childhood Education and Special Ed Early Childhood Education; it's affordable and convenient, since it's also online, but since the school is based in NY, the certificate I'd get is a NY one. I could stay in CT for now (which is good for my pocketbook), finish this online, and maybe move to NY when I am closer to completing this one program. Ok, so much for making this short and simple.
My question is if one can get a different, separate certification if one wanted, or if I would have to necessarily try to transfer my Montana licensure to a NY one, and then add an ECE endorsement? I know that the latter would be cheaper, but all I want to know is if it can be done. Do colleges allow that? I am, as you can see, completely clueless about these certification processes.
My daughter was a Spanish major and had minors in special ed and elem ed. She took all the necessary tests and is able to teach Spanish K-12, special ed K-12 and el ed k-6. Not sure if that is what you wanted to know or not.
Sorry for the tangent.
Wow! I am amazed! Was she able to do in just an undergraduate program?
Due to the specialized requirements of each degree, I would be shocked if someone in my state could even get that many certifications while doing a combined undergraduate and master's degree (as special ed alone is either EC-3 or or 3-6 or K-6, 6-8 (or 6-9), or 9-12--- so that is equivalent to three separate certifications just by itself to be able to teach K-12).
Wow, in my state that many certifications would probably mean at least five semesters worth of student teaching. Unless, her state does it a totally different way or this happened a while ago.
In my state, is believe that all of your teaching certifications are listed on the same license.
I am not really sure what you mean by different "licenses" rather than just different "endorsements".
I know many teachers who started out in one area and went back and added something completely different. Why would you need or want a totally different degree if you are able to do it with just taking an additional semester or two worth of classes?
That's what I meant, two licenses...separate from each other.
I know, it sounds stupid, but I am just curious if it can be done. I went into more detail about why I would think about getting a whole different license versus adding an endorsement in my previous post,but maybe I am not looking at the full picture. I'd love some advice.
Thanks!
Another option, I think, would be to take all the online Early Childhood Education classes that I'd need at this NY school, and then doing the required NY tests, right? I mean...if I do that, the process to get NYS certified would be smoother, correct? What I don't know is if just taking the classes (versus doing a whole degree) would not qualify me to student teach, and I believe that NYS requires a student teaching to endorse you or certify you. Right? What I am trying to avoid is the whole reciprocity/transfer from MSU license to NY license because they are not comparable, although they are both in Spanish. The Montana one is K-12 while the ones that NY confers are 9-12.
HI! Thanks for responding.
I'll try to make it short and simple:
I am close to finishing an M.Ed. with a K-12 Spanish Certificate from Montana State University. After I had decided to teach high school Spanish and started my M.Ed, I realized (while working as a long-term substitute teacher an an elementary school for two whole semesters) that I am absolutely in love with teaching K-2 children. It's an amazing thing that has made me grow, learn, and rethink my whole strategy to become a teacher. Also, for the longest time, I have wanted to teach in inner-city NY, but for financial reasons I have stayed in CT until I finish my graduate degree. Now, everyone tells me, "no big whoop. Just get your license in Spanish from MSU, move to NYC, and then add an Early Childhood Education to your original license.
Thing is that since New York State doesn't have a K-12 Spanish credential, the process to change/transfer my Montana K-12 Spanish licensure to one of NY's grades-9 to 12 certificates could be more difficult and take more time than if I just got an initial NY license after attending a NY-certified program from a NY institution. I just found a great NY program that would lead to an initial DUAL licensure in Early Childhood Education and Special Ed Early Childhood Education; it's affordable and convenient, since it's also online, but since the school is based in NY, the certificate I'd get is a NY one. I could stay in CT for now (which is good for my pocketbook), finish this online, and maybe move to NY when I am closer to completing this one program. Ok, so much for making this short and simple.
My question is if one can get a different, separate certification if one wanted, or if I would have to necessarily try to transfer my Montana licensure to a NY one, and then add an ECE endorsement? I know that the latter would be cheaper, but all I want to know is if it can be done. Do colleges allow that? I am, as you can see, completely clueless about these certification processes.
Thanks for your help!!!
You should check on the certifications for the state where you want to teach.
Sometimes it is fairly easy to transfer your teaching license to a new state and get an equivalent teaching license/certification and other times you need to take multiple undergraduate or graduate credits for each certification. Sometimes, depending on where you received your teaching license, the specifics of the license and what state you move to, you may need to take many, many additional classes.
I suggest that you take your questions to the Department Of Public Instruction in the state where you plan to teach.
You should check on the certifications for the state where you want to teach.
Sometimes it is fairly easy to transfer your teaching license to a new state and get an equivalent teaching license/certification and other times you need to take multiple undergraduate or graduate credits for each certification. Sometimes, depending on where you received your teaching license, the specifics of the license and what state you move to, you may need to take many, many additional classes.
I suggest that you take your questions to the Department Of Public Instruction in the state where you plan to teach.
Wow! I am amazed! Was she able to do in just an undergraduate program?
Due to the specialized requirements of each degree, I would be shocked if someone in my state could even get that many certifications while doing a combined undergraduate and master's degree (as special ed alone is either EC-3 or or 3-6 or K-6, 6-8 (or 6-9), or 9-12--- so that is equivalent to three separate certifications just by itself to be able to teach K-12).
Wow, in my state that many certifications would probably mean at least five semesters worth of student teaching. Unless, her state does it a totally different way or this happened a while ago.
Yes, she did as an undergrad- was very careful which courses she took. She was certified in PA. Moved to NC and was subbing in special ed. I kept telling her to talk to the district to see if her special ed cert was good. She kept insisting it wasn't. After about 4 months of subbing in the same classroom and they couldn't hire/find a teacher to fill the position, the administration called her in. Look at her certificate and said it could be transferred as well. I believe she had to send paperwork to the state, then rec'd the certificate. During this whole process, she was only getting paid a sub salary and didn't get benefits. (I resisted saying,"I told you so"!!!!).
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