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Old 05-17-2009, 08:27 AM
 
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I wish there was alot more discrimination in education.

- Discrimination against disruptive kids who ruin the classroom enviroment.
- Discrimination for gifted kids so they can get the eduational challenge they need.
- Discrimination against violent kids who assualt teachers and other students.

I can think of a whole lot of discrimination most people would like to see going on in education......
If education becomes privatized, private schools will certainly be able to discriminate against race, sexual orientation, religion, distruptive kids, voilent kids, low performing kids, and wait, the learning disabled.
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Old 05-17-2009, 03:20 PM
 
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If education becomes privatized, private schools will certainly be able to discriminate against race, sexual orientation, religion, distruptive kids, voilent kids, low performing kids, and wait, the learning disabled.
That is a NEA red herring. If we moved to a voucher system, no school would be allowed to keep out a kid based on their race or Sexual orientation or religon. There may well be schools that cater to specific religions, even to sexual orientation ( Does'nt NYC have a magnet school that does this already??) but the gov't would never allowed outright discrimination.

We could have single sex schools and schools for people of various faiths. Different opportunities for kids of differing levels of ability. What's wrong with that? Why should advanced kids be forced to wait for the slow kids to catch up? Why should'nt we have schools that cater to the specifically to the learning disabled, that help them adjust and succeed w/o slowing down the rest of the group? What's wrong with a school that focuses on straightening out the disruptive kids?

All these needs could be met by allowing a voucher system, but that would derail too many gravy trains for the NEA to let that happen, right?
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Old 05-17-2009, 06:18 PM
 
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That is a NEA red herring. If we moved to a voucher system, no school would be allowed to keep out a kid based on their race or Sexual orientation or religon. There may well be schools that cater to specific religions, even to sexual orientation ( Does'nt NYC have a magnet school that does this already??) but the gov't would never allowed outright discrimination.

We could have single sex schools and schools for people of various faiths. Different opportunities for kids of differing levels of ability. What's wrong with that? Why should advanced kids be forced to wait for the slow kids to catch up? Why should'nt we have schools that cater to the specifically to the learning disabled, that help them adjust and succeed w/o slowing down the rest of the group? What's wrong with a school that focuses on straightening out the disruptive kids?

All these needs could be met by allowing a voucher system, but that would derail too many gravy trains for the NEA to let that happen, right?
I am for vouchers especially for inner city parents who don't live in a Temecula, Murrieta, OC, and Upper Middleclass CA area school district, and as long as those private schools don't discriminate. Your statement regarding what's wrong with schools that provide opportunities for kids of differing levels of ability seems to be ok. Well it's not ok when those kids who are low performing aren't challenged, and aren't allowed to learn the same curriculum because some person has decided that those kids are too dumb to learn what other SMART students can.

You going to have the same problem that we have in Public school, but if we privatize education, it will be worse. Some schools will be better, some will not allow any low performing kids to attend, and some just will flat out not admit kids who don't fit into their curriculum goals etc.
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