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I can see why people don't like the teacher's union and blame teachers for wanting more money at their state's expense, supporting (Left Wing and Liberal)political causes that don't truely represent ALL teachers, and just having a policy in place that makes it practically impossible for a teacher to get fired.
I think about two years ago, someone started a thread on teacher's unions, but I couldn't find it to revive it as part of this thread. So I have started a new one just to see what you all think about the teacher's unions.
I can see why people don't like the teacher's union and blame teachers for wanting more money at their state's expense, supporting political causes that don't truely represent ALL teachers, and just having a policy in place that makes it practically impossible for a teacher to get fired.
As you have articulated it is not the concept on unionization but practices of as it currently exists.
teachers making good money is a good thing. they worked hard. the problem is they support public schools which are a nightmare a danger to teachers and students.
While I agree teachers should be paid well , unioninization makes them look less deserving. Unions have a nasty habit of protecting people regardless of whether or not they deserve the protection. That muddies the water and casts doubt on everyone's ability.
My father owned his own businesses while I was growing up. He hated unions and I inherited his prejudices. It wasn't until I turned 40 and got into teaching that I saw the necessity of unions. That's a sad statement. Unions are a necessary evil in our public education system.
My father owned his own businesses while I was growing up. He hated unions and I inherited his prejudices. It wasn't until I turned 40 and got into teaching that I saw the necessity of unions. That's a sad statement. Unions are a necessary evil in our public education system.
Can you tell us why? Seriously I don't understand the justification for the unionization of any public employee, let alone teachers.
Can you tell us why? Seriously I don't understand the justification for the unionization of any public employee, let alone teachers.
if you had any idea of the kind of treatment civil servants receive, cops teachers social workers, the people that deal with our garbage, especially when they get near the point of retirement, then you would understand the need for unions.
the mind set of the american public--- if you work hard and are honest the government and corporation will treat you fairly.
americans hate unions, unions the only entity willing to help them.
it is most strange that americans cheer when someone gets a pay cut.
Can you tell us why? Seriously I don't understand the justification for the unionization of any public employee, let alone teachers.
Well, I'm a non union teacher. I make $10K less than I would make year one in a district and never will make more. If I'm lucky, I'll get a 2% COL raise every other year. We have no retirement plan other than 2.5% of our salary put into a 401K (that will pay for a vacation when I retire) and I don't make enough to contribute myself. The benefits stink and we're told they're cutting them next year. So far I've paid over $2000 for my daughters accident in January and the insurance company has notified me they are not counting her hospitalization towards my family maximum. And I have no classroom budget. It just comes out of my pocket.
I don't like unions but I'd love to be in a union district. Sadly, the low pay, lack of retirement plan and lousy benefits will end this dream. I'm just waiting for the economy to turn around so I can start looking for a real job.
As is usually the case, in a unionized field, it's all or nothing. Either you have a union and have it all or you get nothing. This is the second time in my life I've ended up in this position. I solved it last time by going into engineering. Let's hope I can ressurrect that career when the economy starts to turn around. I know I can't work for what I make now for the rest of my life. At least I got to teach for a season.
. I'm just waiting for the economy to turn around so I can start looking for a real job.
Wait. Teaching is not a real job? Hmm....... Well good thing you'll be leaving the profession.
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, unioninization makes them look less deserving. Unions have a nasty habit of protecting people regardless of whether or not they deserve the protection. That muddies the water and casts doubt on everyone's ability.
. And I have no classroom budget. It just comes out of my pocket. 
