06-21-2010, 01:38 PM
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First: I only want to move to eastern Tennessee... as far north as the line and as far south as just before Chattanoga; as far west as the time change, east right along NC border.
Second: there just me; in my early 60's. I'm not retired and won't be for a few more years.
Third: I would like to purchase my own place, but I don't have much money and even tho I pay my bills and all, I have a scratch on my credit.
I need a place big enough for one or two people with about 1/2 acrea. Preferably no trailers.
Fourth: I am self employed, in fact, I need a place where I can continue my business at my place. So, there will be a zoning thing.
Fifth: I'm not comfortable in the city or even being too close to town.
Any ideas of where to look?
Thanks and your help is much appreciated!
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06-21-2010, 03:47 PM
Location: Niota, TN
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Originally Posted by
thinknonmountains
First: I only want to move to eastern Tennessee... as far north as the line and as far south as just before Chattanoga; as far west as the time change, east right along NC border.
Second: there just me; in my early 60's. I'm not retired and won't be for a few more years.
Third: I would like to purchase my own place, but I don't have much money and even tho I pay my bills and all, I have a scratch on my credit.
I need a place big enough for one or two people with about 1/2 acrea. Preferably no trailers.
Fourth: I am self employed, in fact, I need a place where I can continue my business at my place. So, there will be a zoning thing.
Fifth: I'm not comfortable in the city or even being too close to town.
Any ideas of where to look?
Thanks and your help is much appreciated!
WOW, that's a big area. Ok so you don't want to live in the city, you don't need a job. And by your name you don't want mountains. But you do want Eastern TN, that part we got. There are quite a few mountains in Eastern TN, the closer you go to NC there will be more mountains. Now we just need to find out a few more things:
Do you have any hobbies?
Price range and size with 1/2 acre? I know you said big enough for 1-2 people, but that could be from 800sqft to 2,000sqft or bigger. Everyone's opinion is different.
Are you looking for New, old, handman special?
In a development or not?
HOA or not?
Cold or colder in the winter?
We have a lot of very helpful people on this forum, if they get enough info.
Good luck in your house hunting.
06-21-2010, 04:30 PM
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I DO want to live in the mountains. I 'm sorry for the misunderstanding. I was trying to do thinkn'on mountains, didn't quite come out that way.
PRICE RANGE: below $75,000
I'm not much on property demensions, but, I like space.
OLD, NEW, HANDIMAN: I like older houses. Some fixup is ok, but not structural or real involved.
preferably not in a developement. It's bad enough working out of home without dealing with a list of do's and dont's
I'm sorry but I don't know what HOA means
Thanks and hopefully maybe this will help you to help me!
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06-21-2010, 06:26 PM
Location: Niota, TN
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Oh sorry I took it as "think non mountains". HOA is home onwers association, but if you don't want a development I'm sure that you don't want HOA either. What about winter cold or colder? I don't know where you are coming from so maybe cold and colder really isn't that to you. Southeast TN doesn't get quite as cold as Northeast TN and it doesn't snow as much if at all. I'm sure that someone can come up with something, if you can narrow it a little for us. Like your favorite area to your least favorite area.
06-21-2010, 10:07 PM
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I had replied some hours ago, but I don't see it. O well, me and tech are still learning!
as far a winter goes, it isn't going to be much of a problem, I've lived in much colder climates most of my life.
Since I don't know too much about Tenn, but am near it, I know that the eastern part is about the only place that interests me. I love the mountains. I also love my peace and quiet and not intimated by living out a little ways. I've been around bears, deer, wolves, what not, even moose and understand them.
I would like an area where I can (Have my cake and eat it too
)live off the beaten path and yet not so far that my customers won't come. I have a greenhouse business. One thing I realy don't want is close neighbors. I know I sound like a hermit but I just don't like being around how others live, especially if they have animals. It's not that all people are bad, but, well, I just like (my cake) my peace and quite.
thanks for helping!
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06-22-2010, 06:35 AM
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Soooo... in summary.... you want to live far out enough to be off the beaten path, yet you still want to be close enough to have customers come to your greenhouse. You want to be in the country where you can legally operate the greenhouse (check zoning on this) but not have close neighbors or people with animals. Good luck with that.
Even if your neighbors don't have livestock, the chances of them not having a dog or cat out in the country are slim to none. And if you're wanting enough acreage to not have neighbors at all, I hope you have deep pockets as well.
Oh, and you want it all for under 75,000.
06-22-2010, 08:17 AM
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ah yeah...
ok, I'll have to shelve the 1800's and get back into the 2000's, but, a lot of people do the impossible.
I guess... I could live with an acre of land or so and put up signs for dogs and cats about not pooping on my property or at least leave their own signs so I don't step/slip
on the stuff. Also for the cats to go to the catnip plants that I set out for them and leave the others alone
. I can tell two footed ones that they cannot take whatever they please just because they live nearby
and that I'm kinda busy and for them to look up their own info on this and that. I guess I can manage that.
But I still like the country....I don't think that living right on 40 or 75 would be a good idea, nor would I get much business tho..and people do seek out a business ( alright, not way out in the woods
)
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06-22-2010, 08:41 AM
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What I really worry about, is people making a mess out of THEIR property and I have to look at it. If I have enough land so that I can plant trees around the boundary, hopefully, that will take care of the problem. Also, I love animals, but many people don't take care of THEIRS. They leave the poor things tied up day in and day out and they come home and push the animal away (or kick it) and I have to see all this. Also, especially if they have small dogs, the animals yip and yap constantly because they should not be left alone and outside all day , to boot. I spend a lot of time outdoors. I don't feel like I want to listen to that or listen to my neighbors fight about the kids or who they just got caught sleeping with or worse yet... a poor women getting beaten. Or... people both teens and adults having drugs that they sell or parties.Then eventually there is a drug bust and blue light specials all over the place. All this sounds like a lower class stuff, but it isn't.. it's in every social circle.
People have a right to live they way the want, I understand that. But not near me, please. I don't know how to get around it. If a neighbor seems alright when I buy my place and then he/she starts trashing it, it will affect my business. If a custormer get out his/her car and the neighbor dog comes over to greet them, that doesn't set well. And God forbid if the neighbors have a pit bull!
Most of these states have a leash law, but, there are still dogs roaming around
That's why I don't want to be close to others. There must be some place for me, without spending a small (large) fortune. I'm sure others feel the same way.. I can't possibly be the only one.
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06-22-2010, 09:06 AM
Location: Niota, TN
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This is a tough one. That description will take a while to find unless you are willing to bend on several of your needs, especially if you want to stay fairly close to town for your business. You might have to plant hedge trees around you property to block your neighbors.
To be away from everybody you would really need a lot more acreage. And like RRR said that's a lot more $. For that price with more property you're looking at a house that needs a lot more work. I have noticed that lots in TN tend to be long and narrow (like 100x300) not usually square. A parcel of 1/2 acre (about 200x200 if square) isn't really very big so you probably will have neighbors and they probably will have animals. Usually people move to the country so they can have animals (dogs, cats, horses, cows, chickens, etc). If you do find one that meets your needs and price, you better jump on it quick. Because it won't last long. Just keep looking.
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I'd suggest the first thing you do, before worrying about how close the neighbors are or whether you can buy land for 1975 prices, would be to research the density of greenhouses/nurseries in a few areas to see if there's room for ya. My part of the state is a major producer of nursery stock, mostly trees, shrubs and perennials, bare root and container, shipped all over the country as well as local sales and the wholesale source of a lot of big names. There are people in the county that joins mine to the west with greenhouses bigger than half an acre and over 100 acres of fields planted. And with the general reduction in landscaping due to the economy...... yeah, it would be kindof like going to Wall St. and trying to open a new brokerage right now. Not something you could really count on as a primary income when the big boys are dumping stuff at/below cost just to get it out of their greenhouses/fields. Bedding plants/spring vegetable starts have mostly been a loss-leader in this area for over a decade, can't compete pricewise with the stuff Lowes/Home Depot/Walmart/etc. ships in from the Gulf coast every spring if you're having to pay to heat your greenhouse.
You might also want to check the state regulations on raising plants for sale in Tennessee.
TDA - Permits, Licenses & Regulatory Issues scroll down to the "Plant Certification" section, depending on what you're growing you may need several certifications.
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Most Common Occupations - Service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Healthcare support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Protective service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Fire fighting and prevention, and other protective service workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Law enforcement workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Food preparation and serving related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Building and grounds cleaning and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Personal care and service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and office occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Office and administrative support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)