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Old 03-05-2013, 04:23 PM
 
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In other words Tesla is a



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The judge stated that that Tesla's chances of a successful appeal, should the case have gone to trial, were insufficiently high to justify holding a trial. He stated that Tesla's case had no real chance of success and in many notes picked appart Tesla's legal team's arguments.
Tesla Motors Loses Appeal Against BBC's Top Gear - Slashdot
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Old 03-05-2013, 04:27 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX USA
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cool story bro!
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Old 03-05-2013, 04:40 PM
 
Location: South Jersey
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what were they suing over? I don't watch that show. Those guys irritate me
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Old 03-05-2013, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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what were they suing over? I don't watch that show. Those guys irritate me
Been awhile but...

1) They panned it for being overly fragile and useless as a sports car, more of a hairdresser's car. The car overheated and went into limp mode during testing (eg, it broke), the brake system was malfuctioning (eg, it broke) -- so the pushed it into the hangar even though it still worked (in limp mode with the basically no power brakes)
2) The range sucked -- 55 miles under track conditions versus claimed 210.
3) It cost too damn much and weighed too much and you'd have to be stupid to buy it versus the Elise.

Basically, the thing was a joke form the beginning. Tesla just did it to get publicity, they turned it into an infomercial that's probably affective on the only people who were ever going to buy the Roadster anyway, which is people who didn't care that it cost too much, broke too often, was only suitable for hairdresser driving, etc, etc. It was the "oh, look the conventional car press is attacking us because they're afraid of change ploy."

Here's Tesla's advertisement about it:
Tesla vs. Top Gear | Lawsuit: Tesla sues Top Gear for libel and malicious falsehood | Tesla Motors

Kind of weird. I don't really like Tesla's PR. They basically just come across and, yeah, whinging losers. Both in the NYT article and in the Top Gear lawsuit. Don't be surprised if they sue NYT as well. They did eventually post the vehicle logs for the NYT article and there were some oddities... particularly taking off for a 50 mile drive when the thing has 30 miles of range and then acting surprised. The other stuff I'd just chalk up to journalist versus engineer. Speeds were with 5-10 miles, turned down the climate control 30 miles after he did it. Pretty easy to make those of memory mistakes on an all day drive.
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Old 03-05-2013, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQh6zbVQnQI https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=WfM6nRVBvGs&feature=fvwp
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Old 03-05-2013, 07:33 PM
 
Location: anywhere but Seattle
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Meanwhile back in the real world...


Tesla Model S vs BMW M5 Drag Race - YouTube
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Old 03-05-2013, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Saint Louis, MO
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Tesla Model S vs BMW M5 Drag Race - YouTube
And...this had something to do with the top gear usage? We know they beat the car up, but weren't overly impressed with the range on the test track...heck, they could have gotten more range out of a Bugatti with a full tank of fuel on their test track...I guess in your "real world" folks only live a 1/4 mile at a time. And every time you go 300 miles, you intend on stopping and charging for an hour at a high speed charging station (if you can find one)...or you plan on staying somewhere overnight every 300 miles, and charging there. Hopefully the hotel will let you run an extension cord out of your window to your car...and, double hopeful no one stumbling back from the bar unplugs it on the way to their room.

It's a good looking car, and really does pack some great acceleration because of all that electric torque...but it's range is still somewhat limited, it's charging infrastructure isn't widespread, and as such the car really is a bit of a "grocery" getter for most practical purposes. And in "REAL WORLD DRIVING" the M5 is significantly more capable.
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Old 03-05-2013, 09:30 PM
 
Location: anywhere but Seattle
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And...this had something to do with the top gear usage? We know they beat the car up, but weren't overly impressed with the range on the test track...heck, they could have gotten more range out of a Bugatti with a full tank of fuel on their test track...I guess in your "real world" folks only live a 1/4 mile at a time. And every time you go 300 miles, you intend on stopping and charging for an hour at a high speed charging station (if you can find one)...or you plan on staying somewhere overnight every 300 miles, and charging there. Hopefully the hotel will let you run an extension cord out of your window to your car...and, double hopeful no one stumbling back from the bar unplugs it on the way to their room.

It's a good looking car, and really does pack some great acceleration because of all that electric torque...but it's range is still somewhat limited, it's charging infrastructure isn't widespread, and as such the car really is a bit of a "grocery" getter for most practical purposes. And in "REAL WORLD DRIVING" the M5 is significantly more capable.
Top Gear is a scripted show. They do not review cars. Thats why Tesla lost the case.
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