Texas Medical Center in HOU poised to overtake Downtown Dallas in 5-6 years (Houston: commuting, metropolitan area)
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dunno what you are talking about dude, you are on some tangent. But anyway, let me tell you this, whatever it is, Houston is better.
Once again, the office market is restrained in Houston because of the threat of an oil bust. In comparison, the office market in Dallas - Fort Worth is fueled by the regions diversity. Remember the famous blue, thirty story building in Greenway Plaza that went ten years without an occupant?
Therefore, the Dallas - Fort Worth area can better handle a lower occupancy rate as that is considered healthy for its diversified economy.
As Houston's economy booms, so it busts. In comparison, the Dallas - Fort Worth area has a more diversified and steady economy.
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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Originally Posted by Mister Nifty
As some predict that the population of the metropolitan area of DFW will surpass the Chicago area in as little as ten years, how can Washington and Baltimore possibly surpass it in size?
Are you psychologically insane?
In a 10 year span, Dallas-Fort Worth has added 1.3 Million residents, that is impressive. But you're saying in the next 10 years it will overtake Chicago in population? LOL LOL LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
You're one very special piece of work Nifty. Do you honestly think Dallas-Fort Worth or Houston will keep gaining mass population forever?
Oh and here, you should probably see this. Dallas-Fort Worth's population is closer to Detroit's than it is to Chicago, which has 3 million more people than Dallas-Fort Worth.
Population Centers for CSA:
01. New York-Newark-Bridgeport, NY-NJ-CT-PA CSA 22,232,494
02. Los Angeles-Long Beach-Riverside, CA CSA 17,820,893
03. Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City, IL-IN-WI CSA 9,804,845
04. Washington DC-Baltimore-Northern Virginia, DC-MD-VA-WV CSA 8,440,617
Sorry to ruin your day but you still need to pass up the Bay Area, Boston, Washington DC-Baltimore (They're growing exceptionally fast themselves, so Dallas-Fort Worth surpassing them is highly unlikely this decade or the next) before you can think of getting to the number 3 spot where Chicago is.
But LOLOLOLOLOL at this guy. "DFW will surpass Chicago within 10 years" *Looks at 3 Million in population difference* LOL
But in all seriousness, your boosterism is becoming too much, even for a logical conversation. Who on Earth thinks DFW Airport is really the true core for the entire Metroplex? Only you.
And also here it is for MSA.
Population Centers by MSA:
01. New York City: 19,069,796
02. Los Angeles: 12,874,797
03. Chicago: 9,580,567
04. Dallas-Fort Worth: 6,447,615
05. Philadelphia: 5,968,252
06. Houston: 5,867,489
07. Miami-Fort Lauderdale: 5,547,051
08. Washington DC: 5,476,241
09. Atlanta: 5,475,213
10. Boston: 4,588,680
11. Detroit: 4,403,437
12. Phoenix: 4,364,094
13. San Francisco-Oakland: 4,317,853
You homers are absolutely precious. Again Dallas-Fort Worth and Houston's populations are closer to Detroit than they are to Chicago. Which is more or less 3 million larger than Dallas-Fort Worth.
But absolutely hilarious nonetheless, "DFW will surpass Chicago in the next 10 years" LOL. Yeah and I'm going to Tokyo tomorrow for Breakfast, London for Lunch, & Melbourne for Dinner.
At the heart of the market which San Fransciso, Oakland, and San Jose aren't apart of is a lot of water called a bay.
At the heart of the Dallas Fort Worth market is DFW airport, the primary engine running the regions economy.
As some predict that the population of the metropolitan area of DFW will surpass the Chicago area in as little as ten years, how can Washington and Baltimore possibly surpass it in size?
Show me one analyst that believes DFW will gain more than three million people in less than ten years. That's the only way it an pass Chicago's metro. And combined, the Bay Area and Washington-Baltimore are bigger than DFW, by almost two million each. There is no reason why those two places should be divided. Both are more built up between the major cities than DFW is. Commuting patterns are high enough to where they should both form one MSA this next Census. This would push DFW to sixth, and Houston to seventh.
In a 10 year span, Dallas-Fort Worth has added 1.3 Million residents, that is impressive. But you're saying in the next 10 years it will overtake Chicago in population? LOL LOL LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
You're one very special piece of work Nifty. Do you honestly think Dallas-Fort Worth or Houston will keep gaining mass population forever?
Oh and here, you should probably see this. Dallas-Fort Worth's population is closer to Detroit's than it is to Chicago, which has 3 million more people than Dallas-Fort Worth.
Population Centers for CSA:
01. New York-Newark-Bridgeport, NY-NJ-CT-PA CSA 22,232,494
02. Los Angeles-Long Beach-Riverside, CA CSA 17,820,893
03. Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City, IL-IN-WI CSA 9,804,845
04. Washington DC-Baltimore-Northern Virginia, DC-MD-VA-WV CSA 8,440,617
Sorry to ruin your day but you still need to pass up the Bay Area, Boston, Washington DC-Baltimore (They're growing exceptionally fast themselves, so Dallas-Fort Worth surpassing them is highly unlikely this decade or the next) before you can think of getting to the number 3 spot where Chicago is.
But LOLOLOLOLOL at this guy. "DFW will surpass Chicago within 10 years" *Looks at 3 Million in population difference* LOL
But in all seriousness, your boosterism is becoming too much, even for a logical conversation. Who on Earth thinks DFW Airport is really the true core for the entire Metroplex? Only you.
And also here it is for MSA.
Population Centers by MSA:
01. New York City: 19,069,796
02. Los Angeles: 12,874,797
03. Chicago: 9,580,567
04. Dallas-Fort Worth: 6,447,615
05. Philadelphia: 5,968,252
06. Houston: 5,867,489
07. Miami-Fort Lauderdale: 5,547,051
08. Washington DC: 5,476,241
09. Atlanta: 5,475,213
10. Boston: 4,588,680
11. Detroit: 4,403,437
12. Phoenix: 4,364,094
13. San Francisco-Oakland: 4,317,853
You homers are absolutely precious. Again Dallas-Fort Worth and Houston's populations are closer to Detroit than they are to Chicago. Which is more or less 3 million larger than Dallas-Fort Worth.
But absolutely hilarious nonetheless, "DFW will surpass Chicago in the next 10 years" LOL. Yeah and I'm going to Tokyo tomorrow for Breakfast, London for Lunch, & Melbourne for Dinner.
Don't listen to him DANNYY, he doesn't know what he's talking about.
Dallaz, what you posted about those buildings does not mean that Dallas had Texas' tallest skyscrapers. It just owned the title of tallest buiding west of the MS for less than a decade. Hen Houston started building and the rest is history.
Republic National Bank Building then Republic Tower I and now Gables Republic Tower. This building was the tallest building west of the Mississippi River from 1954-1959. In the 60s a second tower was built, to surpass Southland Center (now Sheraton Dallas Hotel) . The FAA scaled down the building. So Republic Tower I spire is taller than the Republic Tower II. Republic Tower I was converted into a residential tower.
Republic Tower I
Built 1954
Roof Height 452 ft (138m)
Spire 601 ft
Floors 32
Republic Tower II
Built 1964
Roof Height 598 ft (182m)
Floors 50
Southland Center now Sheraton Dallas HotelThis building was the tallest building west of the Mississippi River from 1959-1964. The tallest tower was an office tower for the Southland Life Insurance Company. The smaller tower was a Sheraton Hotel. In the 1980s a 31 story addition was added for more office space. In 1988 Southland Center left the complex and soon after the Sheraton Hotel closed. The property sat vacant for many years. In 1998 Adam's Mark Hotel bought the property and made it into one large hotel. This became the largest and tallest hotel in Texas. In 2007 the hotel was turned into the Sheraton Dallas Hotel.
Center Tower
Floors 42
Roof Height 550 ft
Built 1959
North Tower
Built 1981
Roof height 448 ft
Floors 31
South Tower
Built 1959
Roof Height 353 ft
Floors 28
First National Bank Tower now Elm PlaceThis building was the tallest building west of the Mississippi River from 1965-1969. This building sits on an 8 story base that takes up a whole city block. This building was suppose to be 96 ft taller, but it was scaled back because of Dallas Love Field. This building was one of the brightest lit buildings in Dallas. In January 2010 the building was closed.
Elm Place
Built 1965
Roof Height 625 ft
Floors 52
1965
I thought you were gonna give me a proper history? Yousaid Texas first skyscrapers were in Dallas, and then you give me stuff from the 50's and 60?
what about the 1920's???
What about the Niels Esperson Building in Houston 410 ft built in 1927
or the JPMorganChase Building built in 1929
You got buildings in the 400ft range in the 40's, we had them in the 20's. Dallas certainly didn't have the tallest skyscrapers in Texas hun.
in the first decade of the last century Houston's Tallest building was over 300 ft tall. Dallas was less than 200ft
Houston Has been on the forefront for Skyscrapers in Texas. Dallas has always been trying to out compete us
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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Originally Posted by Dallaz
Don't listen to him DANNYY, he doesn't know what he's talking about.
I know. He just doesn't represent Dallas well.
I mean no one in their right mind would try to downplay their own metropolitan area like how he does. Dallas-Fort Worth is gifted of being Multi-Nodal. Use it to your advantage, you guys have two downtowns, two cores, two cities, but this guy keeps insisting on silly things like "DFW Airport is the center of the Metroplex". Just because it's geographically in the center does not make it the largest economic engine in the Metroplex. I am sure both Downtown Fort Worth & Downtown Dallas are larger engines for the Metroplex's economy.
In a 10 year span, Dallas-Fort Worth has added 1.3 Million residents, that is impressive. But you're saying in the next 10 years it will overtake Chicago in population? LOL LOL LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
You're one very special piece of work Nifty. Do you honestly think Dallas-Fort Worth or Houston will keep gaining mass population forever?
Oh and here, you should probably see this. Dallas-Fort Worth's population is closer to Detroit's than it is to Chicago, which has 3 million more people than Dallas-Fort Worth.
Population Centers for CSA:
01. New York-Newark-Bridgeport, NY-NJ-CT-PA CSA 22,232,494
02. Los Angeles-Long Beach-Riverside, CA CSA 17,820,893
03. Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City, IL-IN-WI CSA 9,804,845
04. Washington DC-Baltimore-Northern Virginia, DC-MD-VA-WV CSA 8,440,617
Sorry to ruin your day but you still need to pass up the Bay Area, Boston, Washington DC-Baltimore (They're growing exceptionally fast themselves, so Dallas-Fort Worth surpassing them is highly unlikely this decade or the next) before you can think of getting to the number 3 spot where Chicago is.
But LOLOLOLOLOL at this guy. "DFW will surpass Chicago within 10 years" *Looks at 3 Million in population difference* LOL
But in all seriousness, your boosterism is becoming too much, even for a logical conversation. Who on Earth thinks DFW Airport is really the true core for the entire Metroplex? Only you.
And also here it is for MSA.
Population Centers by MSA:
01. New York City: 19,069,796
02. Los Angeles: 12,874,797
03. Chicago: 9,580,567
04. Dallas-Fort Worth: 6,447,615
05. Philadelphia: 5,968,252
06. Houston: 5,867,489
07. Miami-Fort Lauderdale: 5,547,051
08. Washington DC: 5,476,241
09. Atlanta: 5,475,213
10. Boston: 4,588,680
11. Detroit: 4,403,437
12. Phoenix: 4,364,094
13. San Francisco-Oakland: 4,317,853
You homers are absolutely precious. Again Dallas-Fort Worth and Houston's populations are closer to Detroit than they are to Chicago. Which is more or less 3 million larger than Dallas-Fort Worth.
But absolutely hilarious nonetheless, "DFW will surpass Chicago in the next 10 years" LOL. Yeah and I'm going to Tokyo tomorrow for Breakfast, London for Lunch, & Melbourne for Dinner.
The point being it will be the next census when things might change. Once again, what is at the heart of the San Franscico, San Jose, and Oakland area? What is at the heart of the Washington DC and Baltimore area? DFW airport, the main engine of the North Texas region, is at the heart of the Dallas - Fort Worth area.
Indeed, many think that the Dallas - Fort Worth metropolitan area will surpass the Chicago area in as little as ten years and not the twenty as projected.
I thought you were gonna give me a proper history? Yousaid Texas first skyscrapers were in Dallas, and then you give me stuff from the 50's and 60?
what about the 1920's???
What about the Niels Esperson Building in Houston 410 ft built in 1927
or the JPMorganChase Building built in 1929
You got buildings in the 400ft range in the 40's, we had them in the 20's. Dallas certainly didn't have the tallest skyscrapers in Texas hun.
in the first decade of the last century Houston's Tallest building was over 300 ft tall. Dallas was less than 200ft
Houston Has been on the forefront for Skyscrapers in Texas. Dallas has always been trying to out compete us
We had the first skyscraper over 600ft. Dallas did have the first skyscraper in Texas and the Southwestern United States. Praetorian Building was built in 1909, 15 stories 109 ft.
Dallaz, what you posted about those buildings does not mean that Dallas had Texas' tallest skyscrapers. It just owned the title of tallest buiding west of the MS for less than a decade. Hen Houston started building and the rest is history.
Houston Started building before Dallas.
we have had a longer history with Taller Buildings.
Dallas took over for a couple of years, but we didn't start building after them, they started building after us.
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