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Old 02-21-2022, 06:27 AM
 
Location: A Yankee in northeast TN
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Please stop "Mansplaining"

I was referring to Tornado warnings. We had them every single Wednesday for the entirety of the summer I was in Michigan. For the entire state. I remember because I thought it was so crazy.
It's not mansplaining, but if it makes you feel better try this graph posted by me, a woman-> https://data.lansingstatejournal.com/tornado-archive/

A tornado watch is possible tornados, the conditions are right. Tornado warnings are for already formed and spotted tornados.
Warnings for the entire state wouldn't even be possible unless there is some sort of freak massive outbreak and certainly not repeatedly every Wednesday. Tornados don't come on a schedule. However testing of the warning systems do, which IMO it sounds like that is what you experienced.

But again you can check my link, all this stuff is easy to look up and verify. The NOAA keeps pretty good records for the entire country.

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What I find terrible is so many people are moving to TN and TN actually is due for a major earthquake as well... and then to have twisters? I just wish people would be told the truth.
Memphis isn't the entire state, the state is 700 miles long, there is quite a bit of difference from one area to another. People looking to move need to do thorough and ACCURATE research, especially if they have fears regarding specific events. Relying on here say and stereotypes isn't smart.
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Old 02-21-2022, 06:33 AM
 
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It's not mansplaining, but if it makes you feel better try this graph posted by me, a woman-> https://data.lansingstatejournal.com/tornado-archive/

A tornado watch is possible tornados, the conditions are right. Tornado warnings are for already formed and spotted tornados.
You don't know what you are talking about.

Not to mention that you continue to duck the question. Which isn't... do actual tornados touch down. It is what is your life like under constant yammering threat of attack weekly.

It is downright criminal how people from the midwest try to mislead people.
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Old 02-21-2022, 06:44 AM
 
Location: A Yankee in northeast TN
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You don't know what you are talking about.

Not to mention that you continue to duck the question. Which isn't... do actual tornados touch down. It is what is your life like under constant yammering threat of attack weekly.

It is downright criminal how people from the midwest try to mislead people.
I think your argument is with the NOAA, good luck.

(and yes the question is how often do they touch down, because THAT is the threat, not the weekly testing of the sirens)

I don't want to make another post but there is NO constant threat, read the GRAPH (facts, not feelings).
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No it isn't... the threat is how your life is impacted by the constant threat... where as in Boston the threat of a blizzard is like 6 times a year, at most, with 3 actual blizzards happening.

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Old 02-21-2022, 06:47 AM
 
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I think your argument is with the NOAA, good luck.

(and yes the question is how often do they touch down, because THAT is the threat, not the weekly testing of the sirens)
No it isn't... the threat is how your life is impacted by the constant threat... where as in Boston the threat of a blizzard is like 6 times a year, at most, with 3 actual blizzards happening.
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Old 02-21-2022, 06:58 AM
 
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“A powerful storm system roared across the southeastern United States on
Wednesday, April 27, 2011. This storm system spawned 39 tornadoes in the Huntsville
forecast area and a total of 62 tornadoes which impacted locations in the state of
Alabama. [...] In the wake of this system, hundreds of people were left injured and/or homeless, along
with approximately 100 people who lost their lives in the northern Alabama area alone.
Across the state of Alabama, 272 people lost their lives and at least 1969 (almost 2,000
people!) were injured. Some of the devastation was literally unimaginable with
countless homes, neighborhoods and even portions of cities or towns either partially or
completely destroyed."

Hope you weren't planning to move to Alabama
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Old 02-21-2022, 08:27 AM
 
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Wow 2000 injured

I will say about blizzards that they make driving very dangerous. I was once on highway in snow and driving super slow and careful at 35 mph but my car still spun out of control and I could have died

But when snow happens we can stay home

If you stay home and a half mile wide f3 zig zags thru your town at 3 am and plows over your house what good is that
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Old 02-21-2022, 08:39 AM
 
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Wow 2000 injured

I will say about blizzards that they make driving very dangerous. I was once on highway in snow and driving super slow and careful at 35 mph but my car still spun out of control and I could have died

But when snow happens we can stay home

If you stay home and a half mile wide f3 zig zags thru your town at 3 am and plows over your house what good is that
I think the fear factor is based on the lack of control over the situation. For example I know for a fact that many people are killed every year by the trains that come through town here. The brightline in Florida kills a dozen or so per year, which is more than die to lightning in the state, despite being the lightning capital of the country. However I feel no fear about the train, because I feel like I'm in control by being careful driving across the tracks.

Not sure this is entirely rational, since brakes could always give, could snag a bumper on something stuck in the tracks going across, could get rearended by a drunk driver and pushed into the tracks, I guess anything could technically happen. Plus we can control lightning risk somewhat, but then comes into question what is a reasonable safety precaution and what is neutoric, especially when lightning is extremely common and just a part of life.

I guess for tornados, or for lightning, you could move to a high rise. They seem like the safest place to be for both. Not sure about quakes.
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Old 02-21-2022, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Somewhere below Mason/Dixon
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I may live in a bubble, but this doesn't pass the smell test to me. First, maybe you lived on the east side of MI, but the west side is pretty insulated from tornadoes because of Lake MI. Second, Michigan doesn't usually get the severe tornadoes seen in the plains and in the south. And I've never been in a house that doesn't have a basement. I assume most of the upper midwest has basements too.
Southeast Michigan is highly prone to tornadoes just like Indiana and Ohio are. Your right that much of Michigan is protected by the lakes but East/southeast Michigan is very much part of the tornado region.
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Old 02-21-2022, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Somewhere below Mason/Dixon
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I think the OP is not putting the tornado threat into perspective. Yes we get Tornadoes in Tennessee....really bad ones that made national news a year or two ago. The entirety of the South and most of the Midwest receive them. I have lived all my 5 decades in places that get tornadoes. Tornado warnings have always been part of my life. I have seen the aftermath of tornado destruction. I have never had my own property damaged by twisters nor have I known anyone who has. There are 6 million residents of Tennessee. If tornadoes were to damage a 100 houses a year that is a tiny and statistically insignificant number of people affected each year. Tornadoes are incredibly destructive of you are very unlucky and end up being affected by one. Most residents of the tornado states never see one in their life, they only hear of their aftermath.

Coastal regions however face a vast threat from hurricanes which can be hundreds of miles wide. These monster storms cause mass destruction of whole cities and even regions. Being 300 miles from blue water I feel
Relatively safe. The OP living in Boston is far more likely to face hurricane damage than I am to face tornado damage.
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Old 02-21-2022, 09:04 AM
 
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I think the fear factor is based on the lack of control over the situation. For example I know for a fact that many people are killed every year by the trains that come through town here. The brightline in Florida kills a dozen or so per year, which is more than die to lightning in the state, despite being the lightning capital of the country. However I feel no fear about the train, because I feel like I'm in control by being careful driving across the tracks.

Not sure this is entirely rational, since brakes could always give, could snag a bumper on something stuck in the tracks going across, could get rearended by a drunk driver and pushed into the tracks, I guess anything could technically happen. Plus we can control lightning risk somewhat, but then comes into question what is a reasonable safety precaution and what is neutoric, especially when lightning is extremely common and just a part of life.

I guess for tornados, or for lightning, you could move to a high rise. They seem like the safest place to be for both. Not sure about quakes.
Trains kill that many people? I figured trains kill like zero people a year. That is surprising to me if they kill more.
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